dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Having got the birds settled on the first round turned my attention to the racers. I have 46 cocks and hens to race!! Never in history have we had as many and is already causing bother as I don't have room to race them as I would like. It will be interesting to see how the results pan out. Will they slip back because conditioning is harder in a big team or will numbers increase my chances??? Wots the perfect number? Does the loft dictate or the fancier?
blue pied Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 would all depend on size of your loft and how much time u have to spend at your pigeons??
andy Burgess Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Having got the birds settled on the first round turned my attention to the racers. I have 46 cocks and hens to race!! Never in history have we had as many and is already causing bother as I don't have room to race them as I would like. It will be interesting to see how the results pan out. Will they slip back because conditioning is harder in a big team or will numbers increase my chances??? Wots the perfect number? Does the loft dictate or the fancier? i am at the same stage here Steve, too many birds, more than ive ever kept . unfortunately , not fit enough to cope with the numbers now .have reached a stage where i may breed fewer to race as young this time , and push the old birds a little harder . seriously looking at keeping fewer in future .
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 would all depend on size of your loft and how much time u have to spend at your pigeons??What about the fine details that are required to win? Can you give the same attention to a big team?
blue pied Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 What about the fine details that are required to win? Can you give the same attention to a big team?working full time? noretired/unemployed - yes!working part time.... well maybe lol
yeboah Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Having got the birds settled on the first round turned my attention to the racers. I have 46 cocks and hens to race!! Never in history have we had as many and is already causing bother as I don't have room to race them as I would like. It will be interesting to see how the results pan out. Will they slip back because conditioning is harder in a big team or will numbers increase my chances??? Wots the perfect number? Does the loft dictate or the fancier?I have a big race team also stevie the cocks are easy for me them being celibate also don't work Friday's any more Hope to be left with the best and luckiest come July lol Are you at Langholm the morra 16 going Frae moffat yearly sesh
alec guinness Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Having got the birds settled on the first round turned my attention to the racers. I have 46 cocks and hens to race!! Never in history have we had as many and is already causing bother as I don't have room to race them as I would like. It will be interesting to see how the results pan out. Will they slip back because conditioning is harder in a big team or will numbers increase my chances??? Wots the perfect number? Does the loft dictate or the fancier? Great team m8 and plenty of fed and national races for you to sort them out.
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 I have a big race team also stevie the cocks are easy for me them being celibate also don't work Friday's any more Hope to be left with the best and luckiest come July lol Are you at Langholm the morra 16 going Frae moffat yearly seshNo mate. There is a mob gam frae fechan but am at Glasgow mare fitba!!!
geordie1234 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 15 cocks for me this year or 15 hens I've no decided yet lol
bigbill Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 no old birds , just young ones, hoping to have about 50
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 no old birds , just young ones, hoping to have about 50What happened to yer old birds
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 have moved house , so starting fresh,Best of luck
Novice Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 I have far too many pigeons. This is a consequence of my reluctance to feed peregrine falcons in August. Over the past 2 years I have only sent a few youngsters past the 100 mile mark.I certainly have plenty of time on my hands to race a bigger team but the big question lies in the quality of air in the loft as numbers increase.
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 I have far too many pigeons. This is a consequence of my reluctance to feed peregrine falcons in August. Over the past 2 years I have only sent a few youngsters past the 100 mile mark.I certainly have plenty of time on my hands to race a bigger team but the big question lies in the quality of air in the loft as numbers increase.Some say ventilation is overrated and others that overcrowding is a myth Robert?
geordie1234 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Some say ventilation is overrated and others that overcrowding is a myth Robert?I say its overated bt overcrowding is certainly not a myth...
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 I say its overated bt overcrowding is certainly not a myth...I think they might go hand in hand mate
tiger Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 I say its overated bt overcrowding is certainly not a myth... :emoticon-0137-clapping:
Novice Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Some say ventilation is overrated and others that overcrowding is a myth Robert?Both open and enclosed lofts can work. I appreciate that but overcrowding (in addition to not allowing the birds to take ownership of territory) leads to contamination of the atmosphere. Ammonia, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide are all toxic chemicals. We also exhale water vapour which causes condensation so there goes a dry loft. As a rule of thumb I was once told by a guy who I rate very highly that " if you can smell pigeon then you are doing something wrong".
geordie1234 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Some of the lofts I've walked in have nearly made me pass out with the smell...then they blame the race controller or transporter lol
Novice Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 Some of the lofts I've walked in have nearly made me pass out with the smell...then they blame the race controller or transporter lolThat sums up pigeon men. The source I quoted was George McAloney and I always felt it was a very good rule of thumb.
Delboy Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 space is paramount for most living creatures if you want to maintain health and well being. You should never smell a pigeon loft but more importantly, a pigeon itself should smell good. My son smells every pigeon he handles, its an indication of health.
dal2 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Posted January 30, 2016 That sums up pigeon men. The source I quoted was George McAloney and I always felt it was a very good rule of thumb.My loft is a bit smelly in the morning at the moment wae breeding and the weather. We n the summer months I have mesh doors on as much as possible. I hate too many birds but the rules on overcrowding are mostly down to individual interpretation. Pretty sure most would think my yb loft to be too small. I have 55 on 13x6 with a 6x6 aviary
Delboy Posted January 30, 2016 Report Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Edited January 30, 2016 by Delboy
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