bullcock Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 maybe unnecessary but if it has to go through then maybe one hour is too tight for channel races. id say , one hour in inland races and 2-3 hours in channel races.But why does it have to go through? like I said the committee must have concerns about the current security that this action will solve, other wise there is no justification in having it, we need to keep members and the risk of good birds losing ligitamite positions and performances will only drive them away.Does anyone know what is driving the committee to propose this?
tiger Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 But why does it have to go through? like I said the committee must have concerns about the current security that this action will solve, other wise there is no justification in having it, we need to keep members and the risk of good birds losing ligitamite positions and performances will only drive them away.Does anyone know what is driving the committee to propose this?no need for it just leave it as is
tiger Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 looking d balds & ian,s proposal whats that all about ?
peter pandy Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Perhaps the proposal to phone your bird in is a percussion for introducing security measures as is the norm in National Races down South and next year they will introduce the wing stamp with security number bringing the Security a step in line with the latter where you have to phone in the wing stamp number or disqualification is incurred. The fanciers in England dont have an issue with it and actually welcome it so why dont we.
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 looking d balds & ian,s proposal whats that all about ? Tell us your thoughts john?.?
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Also see reims as against alencon which I think is a very good shout.
dal2 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Also see reims as against alencon which I think is a very good shout. Why John?
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Why John? Good racing and good returns.
dal2 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Good racing and good returns. long time ago ?
Delboy Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Why is it needed at all Derek.......I know I am probably the last person that should be discussing it lol. For the record I ain't bothered either way Don't really care either way now Stevie, Im just sending my doos regardless, I think if its a security thing then it is a decade late
dal2 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Don't really care either way now Stevie, Im just sending my doos regardless, I think if its a security thing then it is a decade late probs
shugf2003 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 probs They've been trying to get us sorry your good distance flyers I only dabbled now and again lol to report first pigeons siince a was about 12 in 1980 still never happened don't suppose it will happen now lol good luck
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 long time ago ? SNFC 2010 had a great race and the wee nat has had 10 decent years racing reims.
dal2 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 SNFC 2010 had a great race and the wee nat has had 10 decent years racing reims. Hope yer right.............No like the east masel lol
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Hope yer right.............No like the east masel lol 2010 Reims 1st sec 7th open D Norden and 6 solway doos in the top 20,no probs for you guys in the solway and will probably be won there!!!!! Yet again. :partick-thistle-Crest:
andy Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 2010 Reims 1st sec 7th open D Norden and 6 solway doos in the top 20,no probs for you guys in the solway and will probably be won there!!!!! Yet again. :partick-thistle-Crest:Keep going John your writing ma speech for me! although Im sure ma bus load will help too!!
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Keep going John your writing ma speech for me! although Im sure ma bus load will help too!! Lol. No definitely a step in the right direction. IMO.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Hope yer right.............No like the east masel lol Reims has been good to Robert Rome and Ralston Graham. Who knows it may be your turn this year Stevie?
dal2 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Keep going John your writing ma speech for me! although Im sure ma bus load will help too!!It's just a preference for me Andy to stay on the more traditional route but will race from anywhere that is voted in, bus loads a bit of a turn off for me as I ain't a meeting kind of guy, best of luck boys
JohnQuinn Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Perhaps the proposal to phone your bird in is a percussion for introducing security measures as is the norm in National Races down South and next year they will introduce the wing stamp with security number bringing the Security a step in line with the latter where you have to phone in the wing stamp number or disqualification is incurred. The fanciers in England dont have an issue with it and actually welcome it so why dont we. A can see how a wing stamp would improve security Peter, and a would support it wholeheartedly, but unless they provide a free service tae record the doos arrival and security number then IMO it amounts to a financial Penalty for timing in and any additional costs tae members must be applied tae all members not just a section of us who are lucky enough to get a decent wan in the clock. Should point out that a Decent wan is very much a strager in my Clock lately so its unlikely to affect me that much but I like Fairness and this is Not fair tae some members. jmo
bullcock Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 A can see how a wing stamp would improve security Peter, and a would support it wholeheartedly, but unless they provide a free service tae record the doos arrival and security number then IMO it amounts to a financial Penalty for timing in and any additional costs tae members must be applied tae all members not just a section of us who are lucky enough to get a decent wan in the clock. Should point out that a Decent wan is very much a strager in my Clock lately so its unlikely to affect me that much but I like Fairness and this is Not fair tae some members. jmoWhat is the securtiy risk?If someone has found a way to cheat, they must have found a way to deliver their clock to the marking station with a ligitamate time in, so phoning in wouldn't stop this, they would do what ever it is they are doing and just phone in within the hour?? or an I missing something?
geordie1234 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 I'm no that paranoid so I don't think phoning in a doo should be made a rule....I trust everyone at the marking stations to the convoyers and fellow fanciers are doing their jobs right....Just enjoy yer doos and try get a good one that's my plan
bullcock Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 I'm no that paranoid so I don't think phoning in a doo should be made a rule....I trust everyone at the marking stations to the convoyers and fellow fanciers are doing their jobs right....Just enjoy yer doos and try get a good one that's my planHere, here, there is enough sh@te going on without creating more, good luck for 2016 everyone.
JohnQuinn Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 What is the securtiy risk?If someone has found a way to cheat, they must have found a way to deliver their clock to the marking station with a ligitamate time in, so phoning in wouldn't stop this, they would do what ever it is they are doing and just phone in within the hour?? or an I missing something? I never mentioned Risks Robert, I said improve security and any new way tae identify each bird and be Certain it Went to the race with the rest must be an improvement.... But yer right, cheaters would find a way tae cheat regardless. But cheatin isn't a concern ave got, ma concern is that for timing in you're gonna get "taxed" for it, or worse yer gonna get disqualified for no doing it. A would be very interested on how we could defend ourselfs in court if somebody took us tae task for being disqualified with an entirely legal time in........instinctively a think we'd lose the case, and lots of £££££ into the bargain.
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