dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 It was a great night and well attended as usual, well done to all who made the night happen, plenty of drink and banter, for anyone who has never experienced a SNFC presentation you don't know what your missing.You need tae win a trophy first lol....that's the hard bit
bullcock Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 You need tae win a trophy first lol....that's the hard bitNo you don't just come along and be inspired.
dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 No you don't just come along and be inspired.Said to the Mrs yesterday. .....we are missing the Nat dinner......you might be she said lil
Novice Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 No you don't just come along and be inspired.I looked closely at the North section average trophy last night.If memory serves me correctly this trophy has been running for 16 years. There were 5 years when it was not won and of the remaining years which I think is 11 there is only one name on it - that of J and A Donaldson. Now is that inspirational or phenomenal?
walterboswell59 Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Posted October 25, 2015 Who all won Silver and Gold awards this year Wattie, I know GB Hunters Kingdom Spirit would've got a Double Gold it did derek what a pigeon eh double gold a dream to own such a bird there was a few silver awards and one or two bronze and a gold but only myself and the great john houston from the west another name thats been at the top in the snfc as long as i can remember and a gentleman jim and i were sat at johns table along with tommy blair and phil lynch and a few other guys whos names i did not catch but all good blokes and good company
TheHigg Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Well done Walter and everyone who got an award
walterboswell59 Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Posted October 25, 2015 Well done Watty, not just on your awards but the help you have given fellow fanciers and new starts and still managed your own team to win from the SNFC. ðŸ‘ðŸ‘ðŸ‘nice of you to say so jamsie but its a bad day when a doo man cant help other doo men pal
bullcock Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I looked closely at the North section average trophy last night.If memory serves me correctly this trophy has been running for 16 years. There were 5 years when it was not won and of the remaining years which I think is 11 there is only one name on it - that of J and A Donaldson. Now is that inspirational or phenomenal?Yes Robert, but look closer to home and you will see the Region F Averages has NEVER been won!, so their is the challenge, we have tried to compete in as many races as possible, but it is hard to have top birds in top form ready for ever race.The year this average trophy is won will be a top season for the fancier to achieve it.
Guest greegsy Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I heard the President got a gold award for a bird that only has 4 Section positions. Granted it has 5 Open positions but the rules are clear, your bird needs 5 Section results to receive the award..... Can anyone confirm this ?? If so what do SNFC members feel about the President bending the rules for self glory.
dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I heard the President got a gold award for a bird that only has 4 Section positions. Granted it has 5 Open positions but the rules are clear, your bird needs 5 Section results to receive the award..... Can anyone confirm this ?? If so what do SNFC members feel about the President bending the rules for self glory.Not acceptable.....simple. ....good bird tae get 4 section prizes tho, ??
Delboy Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Yes Robert, but look closer to home and you will see the Region F Averages has NEVER been won!, so their is the challenge, we have tried to compete in as many races as possible, but it is hard to have top birds in top form ready for ever race.The year this average trophy is won will be a top season for the fancier to achieve it.
Guest greegsy Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Not acceptable.....simple. ....good bird tae get 4 section prizes tho, ?? EXCELLENT bird to get 4 sec and 5 Open positions but the rules are the rules. I really don't know what to think any more when it comes to the management of the SNFC. There are plenty of men on that committee who know the rules so why was this allowed ?? Or does the claim just go to the Secretary and not the full committee ??
dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 EXCELLENT bird to get 4 sec and 5 Open positions but the rules are the rules. I really don't know what to think any more when it comes to the management of the SNFC. There are plenty of men on that committee who know the rules so why was this allowed ?? Or does the claim just go to the Secretary and not the full committee ??Is this true or just summit ye would like to be true?
bullcock Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 EXCELLENT bird to get 4 sec and 5 Open positions but the rules are the rules. I really don't know what to think any more when it comes to the management of the SNFC. There are plenty of men on that committee who know the rules so why was this allowed ?? Or does the claim just go to the Secretary and not the full committee ??I think we are nit picking here, maybe the rules need to be made clearer, but 5 open positions is surley more worthy than 5 section positions, we are recognising top performing birds here, so if the rule was broken then #i think the rule need to be made clearer to honor top performing birds.
dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I think we are nit picking here, maybe the rules need to be made clearer, but 5 open positions is surley more worthy than 5 section positions, we are recognising top performing birds here, so if the rule was broken then #i think the rule need to be made clearer to honor top performing birds.Lol. We had a cock 3xtimes in the first 30 open!!!! Nowt)?lol all from France? ?
bullcock Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Lol. We had a cock 3xtimes in the first 30 open!!!! Nowt)?lol all from France? ?That shou;d have been a silver award, did you apply for one?
dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 That shou;d have been a silver award, did you apply for one?No section prize third outing???? Think on that? ??top 30 OPEN!! Dark cheq bushy cock from Harry Conlin
Guest greegsy Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 It's absolutely true. I can give you the birds ring number and you can check yourself ?? The reason it is Section Positions Bullcock and not Open is due to equality of performance and Open positions do not often reflect the difficulties different sections experience. Rules are Rules and they have been bent here.
dal2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 It's absolutely true. I can give you the birds ring number and you can check yourself ??If no section prize no award as just statedThe reason it is Section Positions Bullcock and not Open is due to equality of performance and Open positions do not often reflect the difficulties different sections experience. Rules are Rules and they have been bent here.
Guest Hairylayer Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Well Done Walter and all the others
bullcock Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 It's absolutely true. I can give you the birds ring number and you can check yourself ?? The reason it is Section Positions Bullcock and not Open is due to equality of performance and Open positions do not often reflect the difficulties different sections experience. Rules are Rules and they have been bent here.Fair enough, maybe someone feeling strong enough about it should put a letter of objection in?
Novice Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Yes Robert, but look closer to home and you will see the Region F Averages has NEVER been won!, so their is the challenge, we have tried to compete in as many races as possible, but it is hard to have top birds in top form ready for ever race.The year this average trophy is won will be a top season for the fancier to achieve it. That would be well outside my remit I think. We would all need to raise our game considerably to achieve that!
scott mca Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Very well done mate over the moon for you :emoticon-0137-clapping:
yeboah Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 I was reading some old Scotland's own books only last week and the late jim Renwick wrote an article on Mr and Mrs Graham of Ecclefecan the following are Jims WordsClintpark Lass 1st open SNFC Nantes 1992 Clintpark lass had already achieved four diplomas in SNFC racing and you would have thought this winner would have gained her a well deserved gold award ,But ironically the rules have it that to win a gold award the pigeon must have a section prize and open positions do not count .Jimmy Graham is not the first fancier to be deprived of such an award and if the committee of the SNFC continue to keep this most unfair rule then more fanciers will be disappointed ,I cannot see justification in this rule at all Look at this champions record 2nd club 22nd section 54th open Sartilly 1990 vel 1352 3310 birds3rd club 42nd section 84th open Rennes 1990 vel 996 4516 birds5th club 60th section 102nd open sartilly 1991 vel 972. 3180 birds 2nd club 27th section 63 open sartilly 1991 vel 882. 3673 birds1st club 1st section 1st open Nantes 1992 The 102nd open was good enough but it's section placing of 60th ruled it outFanciers should never start talking about pigeons being great solely because they have won a SNFC Gold Award Past winners in abundance have an inferior record to clintpark Lass ,Not many can better it ,considering the worst position was 102 nd open As stated all above copied word for word from Scotland s own book 1993
WulDon Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 this was my first SNFC Presentation, will be back next year... hopefully to lift something? I was a great honour to see two pigeons I bred get awards... GILMOUR BROS., Leven with a 4yo blue cock that Ian has now named 'Wullie' who won a Silver award for winning 3 times at over 500 miles including twice at the Gold Cup. DAVE BALDIE, ST.ANDREWS with a 3yo blue cock named 'Fran-Tastic' that was 1st Section C Billericay 2015, this same cock won 1st section C Buckingham 2014... a double section winner. this made my night... :scotland:
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