My Opinion

[tommy bhoys]

lanarkshire fed where racing out of otterburn yesterday and when birds are attacked at or near this race point they end up in durham or newcastle when birds get a gd start they manage tae home in better numbers than yesterday in my opinion the weather shut alot of birds out as well think if we start young birds at kelso we would have better returns

[novo10]

Not many getting reported Gareth your right doos to the corners of the country and theres that many bop compared to 20 years ago the doos that would normally work home are tired and getting picked off also doos thats scrounging about bird tables etc trying to get a pick are getting nailed by the sparrow hawk dosent matter what way they turn there doomed think of the doos thats lost each season I reckon ayrshire lose around 10000 a year and a handful reported where are they I hardly see a stray doo theses days

Tommy weather had nothing to do wae it yesterday

[moscow master]

Aberdeen,and north of Scotland both flew into headwinds yesterday and both have really heavy loses

I know nos were hit at lib but this date the last Saturday in july has historically had disasters

one fancier brought this to my attention and the possibility that the military/ goverment agencies

could be using this weekend every year to test their guidance equipment etc etc

this would explain why on this date yearly there are so many bad races country wide

 

im not saying percy doesn't to tremendious damage and decimates convoys

but to think he is solely responsible for all these bad races is in my opinion being very blinkered

Could be right I used to train my birds right next to an mod site that the low flying jets use down the nith valley not a problem the doos don't come up the valley now and all I can see thats changed is its reeming way bop doos ain't daft they stay well clear of that valley now

[Guest greegsy]

just to be sure and pick up the loose ends

 

;)

[tommy bhoys]

Tommy weather had nothing to do wae it yesterday

what a stupid reply away and fling shxte tae the moon

[bigjamie]

WE ALWAYS HAVE GOOD RACING OUT OF OTTERBURN BUT THAT ONE YESTERDAY WAS A STINKER FOR US

[tommy bhoys]

WE ALWAYS HAVE GOOD RACING OUT OF OTTERBURN BUT THAT ONE YESTERDAY WAS A STINKER FOR US

guess you never raced first young bird race last year jammie ???

[walterboswell59]

i was told on friday night there was to be an air show over in the east on saturday so lanarkshire would be going early dont know if it was true or not but maybe a reason so many had bad races

[Bobby4]

guess you never raced first young bird race last year jammie ???

Yes same carryon as this year

[ALF]

i was told on friday night there was to be an air show over in the east on saturday so lanarkshire would be going early dont know if it was true or not but maybe a reason so many had bad races

Air show was nowhere near us

[tommy bhoys]

Yes same carryon as this year

birds have been attacked at this race point twice this year and twice we have had bad returns old birds can handle it better than young birds its a great race point if birds get a start

[Guest stb-]

i was told on friday night there was to be an air show over in the east on saturday so lanarkshire would be going early dont know if it was true or not but maybe a reason so many had bad races

doubt it walter its at east fortune near haddington i know red arrows were there but told it was around 4pm for there display canny see a couple of old spitfires or a hurricane causing problems for the whole of scotland wht aboot the feds north of the forth that had bad uns too

 

Air show was nowhere near us

did someone get a doo home with and arrow in it ??? a red one lol

[walterboswell59]

Air show was nowhere near us

not talking about lanarkshire alan but maybe other feds were affected and if the birds were attacked who knows were they went after that they fly mad and some may have caught up in it

[bigjamie]

TOMMY I CAN HARDLY THINK BACK TO LAST WEEK MATE AND THATS WITHOUT A DRINK TOMMY OUR BIRDS ARE NOT SAFE WEREVER THEY RACE FROM MATE

[frank-123]

So yesterday u think a Percy could do that much damage stuart to almost every fed in Scotland? what happens when we all get good racing? is Percy off on holiday?

Let's take the Norwich peregrine programme in the last three years out of one nest has come 9 peregrine chicks.....Now these chicks are taught how to hunt by the adults so you could have 2 adults and 3 chicks hitting the convoy at any time on route. If you have ever seen the damage what one Percy can do to a batch of experienced old birds imagine what they could do to a batch of youngsters. Oh and that was just one nest having a go they could face multiple hits on the way home.

 

 

 

[paddymac]

Let's take the Norwich peregrine programme in the last three years out of one nest has come 9 peregrine chicks.....Now these chicks are taught how to hunt by the adults so you could have 2 adults and 3 chicks hitting the convoy at any time on route. If you have ever seen the damage what one Percy can do to a batch of experienced old birds imagine what they could do to a batch of youngsters. Oh and that was just one nest having a go they could face multiple hits on the way home.

So true Frank, this is the problem. The Ybs are not being hit by a single peregrine they're being attacked and butchered by at least three at a time

[frank-123]

I said a few weeks ago about delaying the youngbird programme to start at the end of August. You guys are training and racing youngsters as they peregrine chicks are ready to fledge the nest.

Hen Harrier, sparrowhawk and the goshawk added to the percies no wonder the youngbirds are not homing.

4g 3g 2g k index don't think any of it comes near to the problem of the birds being scared to death.

[frank-123]

Was thinking last night about using a drone to watch the birds from training. They have magnificent cameras on them

[tommy bhoys]

Was thinking last night about using a drone to watch the birds from training. They have magnificent cameras on them

do you get them with magnificent guns on then frank

[THE FIFER]

the problem we have with BOP is terrible, and discussions who and where are ok, but I am getting bothered with calls and fanciers personally telling me basics should be put off allowing such posts referring to latebreds etc, on an open forum, this is about the forth time we have had to post up about it and move posts, yes pigeon fanciers are on about the danger those posts can do, so please think before you post, it is an open forum, but even fanciers are on about it, anymore and the thread will be locked, sorry, and no replies please

[paddymac]

I said a few weeks ago about delaying the youngbird programme to start at the end of August. You guys are training and racing youngsters as they peregrine chicks are ready to fledge the nest.

Hen Harrier, sparrowhawk and the goshawk added to the percies no wonder the youngbirds are not homing.

4g 3g 2g k index don't think any of it comes near to the problem of the birds being scared to death.

So true Frank

[Delboy]

I said a few weeks ago about delaying the youngbird programme to start at the end of August. You guys are training and racing youngsters as they peregrine chicks are ready to fledge the nest.

Hen Harrier, sparrowhawk and the goshawk added to the percies no wonder the youngbirds are not homing.

4g 3g 2g k index don't think any of it comes near to the problem of the birds being scared to death.

 

spot on

[frank-123]

do you get them with magnificent guns on then frank

Well the Americans can wipe the Taliban out with them. Lol. Seriously think fanciers need to see the damage getting done for themselves.

[Guest greegsy]

Was thinking last night about using a drone to watch the birds from training. They have magnificent cameras on them

 

Have you costed this Frank?? I for one would chip in for it. Couple of things might be against it though. First one is how does it follow them if no one at ground level knows where the birds are. The other being obstacles like Pylons, high rise flats when the birds are going through cities etc, but definitely I would chip in if it was at all possible.

The footage might make some other groups of people realise what these birds are doing and how many of them are actually here which I would guess the rspb wouldn't want seen.

[frank-123]

Have you costed this Frank?? I for one would chip in for it. Couple of things might be against it though. First one is how does it follow them if no one at ground level knows where the birds are. The other being obstacles like Pylons, high rise flats when the birds are going through cities etc, but definitely I would chip in if it was at all possible.

The footage might make some other groups of people realise what these birds are doing and how many of them are actually here which I would guess the rspb wouldn't want seen.

 

They cost £700 for a decent one probably better to hire one with someone that knows what they are doing. You can get them from maplin. Not sure how far they could follow the birds. But when it gets too far from the controller it automatically returns to take off point. Just thought it would be an idea to try and see what happens to the birds.