tommy bhoys Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 i have been reading this forum over the last day and looks like most of us got a hard race. I see people saying percy percy percy, yes i heard it happened to North of scotland but every other fed that got a hard race yesterday wasnt because of percy. i think people are just blaming percy because maybe there pigeons werent trained for the race enough or wasnt healthy, thoughts ?? thats just my opinion tho.there was only two major factors yesterday birds of prey and the weather in that order
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 If it is mobile phones that are causing the problems how do some get full returns from the same race.Mobile phone / satelites are only one of the problems thats in our sport, from 1. Young bird sickness2. Perigrines, 3.poorly educated young birds, 4. Young birds bred from generations of birds that have not proved there worth.5. 4g signal. 1-4 have been with us for years. No 5 is only a new problem since 2014 and we know whats happened in last years young bird program, now combine all 5 together and its a receipe for disaster. Some fanciers pigeons may only expernce 1 or 2 of the problems and may escape a BOP attack at liberation or on the flight home, as others have quoted on here its became a game of luck and that is possibly why some fanciers have great returns whislt others struggle jmo
Rebus Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 I only dropped one out of 37No mobile phones in your area?.
Delboy Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 I don't disagree with Gareths theory on 4G but id say BOP is the main reason for losses.Lets deal with what we can and if yb racing is still the same then and only then will we throw in the towel. I think if we deal with what we can then its sorted.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Racing is over for the season for me since I don't race my YB's. School holidays means time with the kids and not the pigeons. I have now began to alter their routine, letting them out twice a day and calling them in to feed. My reason is that if I leave them on open hole as is the norm, I will lose at least 1 a day to BOP and that is just around the loft, so different tactics have to be employed. We all need to employ different tactics, especially if racing. I am unable to get cable TV here, nor am I able to get fibre optic internet accessability, so different tactics have to be employed.
Guest stb- Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 If it is mobile phones that are causing the problems how do some get full returns from the same race.cause they ones follow the b t land lines obviously Jock .. Seriously your right maby there breed on a different frequency mix
bigjamie Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 WITH THE GAPS IN BIRDS TIMING IN SPEAKS FOR ITSELF THAT BOPS BEEN ABOUT THEM A 89 MLS RACE MOST OF THE CONVOY SHOULD BE BOMBING IN BUT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF I WAS FORTUNATE TO GET ALL MINE HOME BUT THE GAPS WERE BAD AND BIRDS SITTING ON ROOFS NOT WANTING TO COME DOWN AND WHEN THEY DID THEY WERE VERY JUMPY
Guest stb- Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 I only dropped one out of 37shoosh james that can aw change next week m8 i hope not but you could be the opposite way round , ive only lost 72 in last week and thats fae the dookit way percy
bigjamie Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 YOUR BANG ON RAB I WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES GETTING FULL RETURNS BUT THAT COULD CHANGE ANYTIME MATE IF THINGS DONT GET SORTED SOON THE RACING GAME WILL BE FINNISHED RAB
Guest stb- Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 YOUR BANG ON RAB I WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES GETTING FULL RETURNS BUT THAT COULD CHANGE ANYTIME MATE IF THINGS DONT GET SORTED SOON THE RACING GAME WILL BE FINNISHED RABOn the road out now jamie maby to late to sort now unfortunatly the sceptic that all said folk were talking kite about percies 10 years ago !!!! well they all no now m8
moscow master Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 I can't remember the last time a batch of doos hit the fed and it was the trap that separated the winners now you can win a race below 100mls by 20 mins birds fly in a flock always have so why don't they hit the fed like they used to ? Simple bop 4gs a load a mince if youve 30 birds at a race all in the same condition and breeding and you win the race lose 6 and the others take all day to come how can it be 4g or any other signals the moon in the sky etc the loft should be shut up in minutes from short races only problem is theyve been scattered to the four winds and some are in hiding thats why there's the huge gaps come on guys youve had them long enough and been blootered many a time losing top pigeons from silly races and never to turn in as there deed get heads together and consentrate on what the real problem is instead of skirting round it way silly theories just think what could of been this weekend way all he losses your going to loss them regardless so lets not lose them for nothing
moscow master Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Mobile phone / satelites are only one of the problems thats in our sport, from 1. Young bird sickness2. Perigrines, 3.poorly educated young birds, 4. Young birds bred from generations of birds that have not proved there worth.5. 4g signal. 1-4 have been with us for years. No 5 is only a new problem since 2014 and we know whats happened in last years young bird program, now combine all 5 together and its a receipe for disaster. Some fanciers pigeons may only expernce 1 or 2 of the problems and may escape a BOP attack at liberation or on the flight home, as others have quoted on here its became a game of luck and that is possibly why some fanciers have great returns whislt others struggle jmoGareth your club result tells its own story ramage 1st and 4th nearly 200ypm between them and wins the club with 230 odd doos competing by over 100ypm the result should of been over in minutes if not less and am sure the winner wasnt immune to mobile signals I'd hazard a guess it got home without getting spooked but ive been wrong before lol
novo10 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Watched young birds yesterday going past us then doubling back trying to get a line then heading away again nothing in the sky to make them turn back and look for line and I think Gareth's theory could be right never seen anything like it before
paddymac Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 I am unable to get cable TV here, nor am I able to get fibre optic internet accessability, so different tactics have to be employed. Whats this got to do with Yb losses Andy :emoticon-0138-thinking:
Guest stb- Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Whats this got to do with Yb losses Andy :emoticon-0138-thinking:dint know but hes lost me Pat
paddymac Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 dint know but hes lost me Pat Must be the Cherry picking Rab
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Whats this got to do with Yb losses Andy :emoticon-0138-thinking: Different tactics have to be employed.
Guest stb- Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Different tactics have to be employed. to loose pigeons ?? lost me again >>>??
hotrod Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Watched young birds yesterday going past us then doubling back trying to get a line then heading away again nothing in the sky to make them turn back and look for line and I think Gareth's theory could be right never seen anything like it beforeDitto Derik , I seen a batch of say 20 odd birds later last night heading northwest , very slow .lethargic like ,then they split and around 6/8 headed south west , still very slow , looked lost and never had a clue what way to go . As you say looking for a line , and to answer Gareth , if phones have something to do with it why do some get good training /racing ,I had 10 tosses 5 from 6 miles and 5 from 20 odd miles never lost one ,every time getting quicker and quicker , last toss beat me home . From 20 mile toss , so does no one use their phones when we get a good race , not saying there's nothing in it but IMHO. The PERIGRINE FALCON Is the main problem end of .and I've been lucky ,although lost two off loft to it and one lucky one just getting over it .
moscow master Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Here's something to mull over am mates way the the guy that rings these birds a top man in the bto etc he tells me each nest in a season will have on average 300 rings in it i know of atleast 20 sites in ayrshire that's 6000 doos give or take our transporter holds 3000 birds thats it emptied twice in a season way the locals albeit they'll not all be ayrshire birds but not many Feds pass through here maybe in a strong east wind you might get te odd doos and the odd Irish doos as they lib here but most will be ours this is happening all over these figures are facts give or take also if youve got two and three year olds thats been winning well and you lose them at a short toss bearing in mind theyve been flying way 4g whats happened maybe everyone sent texts at the same time lol also doos have better eyesight than us ive libbed doos at training and they don't want to come out the basket but ive looked alround and seen nowt also had birds drop out the batch and go back in the basket petrified to go in the sky as they know whats ahead and it ain't mobile signals
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 to loose pigeons ?? lost me again >>>?? I am not going to spell it out.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted July 26, 2015 Report Posted July 26, 2015 Here's something to mull over am mates way the the guy that rings these birds a top man in the bto etc he tells me each nest in a season will have on average 300 rings in it i know of atleast 20 sites in ayrshire that's 6000 doos give or take our transporter holds 3000 birds thats it emptied twice in a season way the locals albeit they'll not all be ayrshire birds but not many Feds pass through here maybe in a strong east wind you might get te odd doos and the odd Irish doos as they lib here but most will be ours this is happening all over these figures are facts give or take also if youve got two and three year olds thats been winning well and you lose them at a short toss bearing in mind theyve been flying way 4g whats happened maybe everyone sent texts at the same time lol also doos have better eyesight than us ive libbed doos at training and they don't want to come out the basket but ive looked alround and seen nowt also had birds drop out the batch and go back in the basket petrified to go in the sky as they know whats ahead and it ain't mobile signals Different tactics have to be employed.
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