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No disrespect to the birds or to hardy himself but some of the names mentioned are top flyers I'd like to know where they rate the birds against what they already have this would give me a better idea on how these birds are preforming

 

Studs advertising results in the first year or two after new introductions I take with a pinch of salt as most have lofts now which fly birds for them and the birds are given to lads that they know will get 100% from them

 

 

Saying lads are not saying there winning with them but not saying may be true but you could say that about any breed\strain

 

I'm not trying to knock anyone or there birds just trying to make a judgement on the birds results in the UK and Ireland

 

How about studs advertising results/winners from a club they set up (named after the owners business), and nearly all members flying to their or other satellite lofts, so near 100% of birds are bred by the stud! Oh and funnily enough mentioned earlier as having good wins with the Krugers!

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Ain't buying into this ,pure rip off no pigeon is worth the stupid sums noted,and I ain't seeing anyone dominating 500mile racing with any ov these lines.i will stick to my gift birds and the ones purchased for token sums.keep yer cash it's hard earned

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Ain't buying into this ,pure rip off no pigeon is worth the stupid sums noted,and I ain't seeing anyone dominating 500mile racing with any ov these lines.i will stick to my gift birds and the ones purchased for token sums.keep yer cash it's hard earned

 

 

 

I agree with you Vinnie, anybody that buys a Y/B for that kind of

money is mad.

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no one can garntee to breed you winners imo and a pedegree is only as true as the man who writes it i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland just now but i could not garntee the youngbirds off them could or would win for someone else as for one they dont breed winners in every nest why do you think i breed 14 to 18 off each pair every year if i get one or two winners off them in a season im happy also the guy that buys them may treat them very different from me and do nothing with them all i can garntee is they are off my best and bred for the job then its up to guy that buys them to get the best out of them and yes if the money is right ill sell yb off my best breeders but i would never sell the birds that breed them unless i was packing in or in real trouble and was forced to you buy what you fancy and what you can afford simple as that but if your not prepaired to put the same or more work into them as the guy you bought them from then your wasting your money and your time some fanciers think if they can afford to buy the best bloodlines going around that they must win im afraid this is not so in pigeons horses or even dogs yes you will have the winning bloodlines but its you that makes them win jmo for what its worth

bold statement that walter about having some of the best stock in scotland
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no one can garntee to breed you winners imo and a pedegree is only as true as the man who writes it i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland just now but i could not garntee the youngbirds off them could or would win for someone else as for one they dont breed winners in every nest why do you think i breed 14 to 18 off each pair every year if i get one or two winners off them in a season im happy also the guy that buys them may treat them very different from me and do nothing with them all i can garntee is they are off my best and bred for the job then its up to guy that buys them to get the best out of them and yes if the money is right ill sell yb off my best breeders but i would never sell the birds that breed them unless i was packing in or in real trouble and was forced to you buy what you fancy and what you can afford simple as that but if your not prepaired to put the same or more work into them as the guy you bought them from then your wasting your money and your time some fanciers think if they can afford to buy the best bloodlines going around that they must win im afraid this is not so in pigeons horses or even dogs yes you will have the winning bloodlines but its you that makes them win jmo for what its worth

 

Walter how many stock pair do you keep, as you breed 14-18 ybs off each pair?

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bold statement that walter about having best stock in scotland

Walter likes his stock and his results. Lots of folk in the fancy can't make their mind what they have in the loft and purchase what they can afford? Others pay over the odds for birds when really what they need is knowledge?

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Walter likes his stock and his results. Lots of folk in the fancy can't make their mind what they have in the loft and purchase what they can afford? Others pay over the odds for birds when really what they need is knowledge?

is that right ? I know at least 4 or 5 lofts in west section that have as good or better and there results prove it

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is that right ? I know at least 4 or 5 lofts in west section that have as good or better and there results prove it

 

lets hear some of them then,

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lets hear some of them then,

ill put there initials up only dd ja jh de dh,fact not havein a go at walter as he has put up some top results in the last few years

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is that right ? I know at least 4 or 5 lofts in west section that have as good or better and there results prove it

Cant dispute that John. Just trying to point out that diffo men have diffo versions of success? ?

 

A highly rated partnership arguing with a lesser achieving fellow fancier over who BOUGHT the best birds is a bit pointless?

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bold statement that walter about having best stock in scotland

 

 

having SOME of the best , not the best as you have stated

Guest chad3646
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and a wooden spoon for you

 

 

no no davie, just stating facts , i think you have read it wrong

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bold statement that walter about having some of the best stock in scotland

the statement was i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland tiger others will think they have to m8 which they are entitled to think but i would say there are not many in scotland breeding constant winners over the past five or more years from 60 to over 500 miles i could not ask for any better than i have as i try to win from every distance and every race point i go to and the stockbirds i have have been breeding birds to win at every distance so why should i not think that they have bred in four seasons 30 birds to score in the snfc and over 20 first prize winners maybe even more if i look them out but like i said a pedigree is only as true as the man that writes it

ps forgot to say and all bred from or down from 5 pair

Edited by walterboswell59
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Thought you paid a lot for your GB youngsters last year :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking:

 

Your right Ian paid to much for them, but I got 14 for what some guys are

paying for one and they all had at lease 5 races and I've still got 11 of

them left, so not bad.

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Walter how many stock pair do you keep, as you breed 14-18 ybs off each pair?

i have 17 pair of stock birds wiley but 90 percent of my yb are bred off 5 pair the rest of the stock birds are inbred and line bred sons and daughters from the the five pair but all 17 pair have bred winners for me and the younger ones will go into the single pair sections in time when there pairents stop producing winners or breeders of winners or become infertile

Guest chad3646
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its chad who wrong again. just goes 2 show anyone can make mistakes

 

sorry dkj,a make some mistakes now and again lol

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the statement was i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland tiger others will think they have to m8 which they are entitled to think but i would say there are not many in scotland breeding constant winners over the past five or more years from 60 to over 500 miles i could not ask for any better than i have as i try to win from every distance and every race point i go to and the stockbirds i have have been breeding birds to win at every distance so why should i not think that they have bred in four seasons 30 birds to score in the snfc and over 20 first prize winners maybe even more if i look them out but like i said a pedigree is only as true as the man that writes it

ps forgot to say and all bred from or down from 5 pair

 

sorry walter iv seem 2 upset ? now go and do ur home work there are many many lofts in ur own neck of the woods that have far better results than u at nats fact i gave 5 names yesterday and theres more , but i dont blame you for blowing ur trumpet as youve made good money selling them on here , and ive never heard a fishmonger selling rotten fish , so good luck 2 you

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