William Reid Posted November 8, 2014 Report Posted November 8, 2014 nae would rather give them away to help someone out money aint my godAt that price I will buy all of them
Mixxy Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 No disrespect to the birds or to hardy himself but some of the names mentioned are top flyers I'd like to know where they rate the birds against what they already have this would give me a better idea on how these birds are preforming Studs advertising results in the first year or two after new introductions I take with a pinch of salt as most have lofts now which fly birds for them and the birds are given to lads that they know will get 100% from them Saying lads are not saying there winning with them but not saying may be true but you could say that about any breed\strain I'm not trying to knock anyone or there birds just trying to make a judgement on the birds results in the UK and Ireland How about studs advertising results/winners from a club they set up (named after the owners business), and nearly all members flying to their or other satellite lofts, so near 100% of birds are bred by the stud! Oh and funnily enough mentioned earlier as having good wins with the Krugers!
VMS Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Ain't buying into this ,pure rip off no pigeon is worth the stupid sums noted,and I ain't seeing anyone dominating 500mile racing with any ov these lines.i will stick to my gift birds and the ones purchased for token sums.keep yer cash it's hard earned
harry h Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Ain't buying into this ,pure rip off no pigeon is worth the stupid sums noted,and I ain't seeing anyone dominating 500mile racing with any ov these lines.i will stick to my gift birds and the ones purchased for token sums.keep yer cash it's hard earned I agree with you Vinnie, anybody that buys a Y/B for that kind ofmoney is mad.
tiger Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 no one can garntee to breed you winners imo and a pedegree is only as true as the man who writes it i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland just now but i could not garntee the youngbirds off them could or would win for someone else as for one they dont breed winners in every nest why do you think i breed 14 to 18 off each pair every year if i get one or two winners off them in a season im happy also the guy that buys them may treat them very different from me and do nothing with them all i can garntee is they are off my best and bred for the job then its up to guy that buys them to get the best out of them and yes if the money is right ill sell yb off my best breeders but i would never sell the birds that breed them unless i was packing in or in real trouble and was forced to you buy what you fancy and what you can afford simple as that but if your not prepaired to put the same or more work into them as the guy you bought them from then your wasting your money and your time some fanciers think if they can afford to buy the best bloodlines going around that they must win im afraid this is not so in pigeons horses or even dogs yes you will have the winning bloodlines but its you that makes them win jmo for what its worthbold statement that walter about having some of the best stock in scotland
Ian McKay Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 I agree with you Vinnie, anybody that buys a Y/B for that kind ofmoney is mad. Thought you paid a lot for your GB youngsters last year :emoticon-0138-thinking:
Wiley Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 no one can garntee to breed you winners imo and a pedegree is only as true as the man who writes it i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland just now but i could not garntee the youngbirds off them could or would win for someone else as for one they dont breed winners in every nest why do you think i breed 14 to 18 off each pair every year if i get one or two winners off them in a season im happy also the guy that buys them may treat them very different from me and do nothing with them all i can garntee is they are off my best and bred for the job then its up to guy that buys them to get the best out of them and yes if the money is right ill sell yb off my best breeders but i would never sell the birds that breed them unless i was packing in or in real trouble and was forced to you buy what you fancy and what you can afford simple as that but if your not prepaired to put the same or more work into them as the guy you bought them from then your wasting your money and your time some fanciers think if they can afford to buy the best bloodlines going around that they must win im afraid this is not so in pigeons horses or even dogs yes you will have the winning bloodlines but its you that makes them win jmo for what its worth Walter how many stock pair do you keep, as you breed 14-18 ybs off each pair?
dal2 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 bold statement that walter about having best stock in scotlandWalter likes his stock and his results. Lots of folk in the fancy can't make their mind what they have in the loft and purchase what they can afford? Others pay over the odds for birds when really what they need is knowledge?
tiger Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Walter likes his stock and his results. Lots of folk in the fancy can't make their mind what they have in the loft and purchase what they can afford? Others pay over the odds for birds when really what they need is knowledge?is that right ? I know at least 4 or 5 lofts in west section that have as good or better and there results prove it
Guest chad3646 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 is that right ? I know at least 4 or 5 lofts in west section that have as good or better and there results prove it lets hear some of them then,
tiger Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 lets hear some of them then,ill put there initials up only dd ja jh de dh,fact not havein a go at walter as he has put up some top results in the last few years
dal2 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 is that right ? I know at least 4 or 5 lofts in west section that have as good or better and there results prove itCant dispute that John. Just trying to point out that diffo men have diffo versions of success? ? A highly rated partnership arguing with a lesser achieving fellow fancier over who BOUGHT the best birds is a bit pointless?
Guest chad3646 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 bold statement that walter about having best stock in scotland having SOME of the best , not the best as you have stated
tiger Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 having SOME of the best , not the best as you have stated and a wooden spoon for you
Guest chad3646 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 and a wooden spoon for you no no davie, just stating facts , i think you have read it wrong
walterboswell59 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) bold statement that walter about having some of the best stock in scotlandthe statement was i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland tiger others will think they have to m8 which they are entitled to think but i would say there are not many in scotland breeding constant winners over the past five or more years from 60 to over 500 miles i could not ask for any better than i have as i try to win from every distance and every race point i go to and the stockbirds i have have been breeding birds to win at every distance so why should i not think that they have bred in four seasons 30 birds to score in the snfc and over 20 first prize winners maybe even more if i look them out but like i said a pedigree is only as true as the man that writes itps forgot to say and all bred from or down from 5 pair Edited November 9, 2014 by walterboswell59
harry h Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Thought you paid a lot for your GB youngsters last year :emoticon-0138-thinking: Your right Ian paid to much for them, but I got 14 for what some guys are paying for one and they all had at lease 5 races and I've still got 11 of them left, so not bad.
walterboswell59 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 no no davie, just stating facts , i think you have read it wrongthanks jimmy your right again m8
dkj Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 thanks jimmy your right again m8 no he wrong again. im davie
walterboswell59 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 Walter how many stock pair do you keep, as you breed 14-18 ybs off each pair?i have 17 pair of stock birds wiley but 90 percent of my yb are bred off 5 pair the rest of the stock birds are inbred and line bred sons and daughters from the the five pair but all 17 pair have bred winners for me and the younger ones will go into the single pair sections in time when there pairents stop producing winners or breeders of winners or become infertile
walterboswell59 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 no he wrong again. im daviesorry davie wrong place lol
dkj Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 sorry davie wrong place lol its chad who wrong again. just goes 2 show anyone can make mistakes
Guest chad3646 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Posted November 9, 2014 its chad who wrong again. just goes 2 show anyone can make mistakes sorry dkj,a make some mistakes now and again lol
tiger Posted November 10, 2014 Report Posted November 10, 2014 the statement was i think i have some of the best breeding stock birds in scotland tiger others will think they have to m8 which they are entitled to think but i would say there are not many in scotland breeding constant winners over the past five or more years from 60 to over 500 miles i could not ask for any better than i have as i try to win from every distance and every race point i go to and the stockbirds i have have been breeding birds to win at every distance so why should i not think that they have bred in four seasons 30 birds to score in the snfc and over 20 first prize winners maybe even more if i look them out but like i said a pedigree is only as true as the man that writes itps forgot to say and all bred from or down from 5 pair sorry walter iv seem 2 upset ? now go and do ur home work there are many many lofts in ur own neck of the woods that have far better results than u at nats fact i gave 5 names yesterday and theres more , but i dont blame you for blowing ur trumpet as youve made good money selling them on here , and ive never heard a fishmonger selling rotten fish , so good luck 2 you
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