Guest karen87 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 My dad just txt me asking if I could let you all know that walter's computer is on the blink. If any of you guys need him you can contact him by his house phone.
VMS Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 My dad just txt me asking if I could let you all know that walter's computer is on the blink. If any of you guys need him you can contact him by his house phone Tell him it's time to splash the cash on a new one lol
walterboswell59 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 thanks best pal got it sorted now back on line hope your dads feeling better chicken pox jesus what next some pair me with parramyxo and him with chicken pox lol
TheHigg Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 thanks best pal got it sorted now back on line hope your dads feeling better chicken pox jesus what next some pair me with parramyxo and him with chicken pox lolnever knew a man could get paramyxo walter hope youre feeling better mate haha i wasent too good myself at the weekend i had that nast weekend bug [PARRALETIC]
Guest karen87 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 You two make a fine pair lol. He better keep the pox to himself!! Lol
walterboswell59 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 You two make a fine pair lol. He better keep the pox to himself!! Lolhe better karen thats all i need lol think ill be up to see a famous optician shortly my co checks are all scratched already might be up to your shop thurs or frid
walterboswell59 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 thanks archie pure luck i found what was causing the problem a loose wire inside a 4 plug extention leed was cutting the power to the computer blamed everything bar that to but alls well now
TheHigg Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 thanks archie pure luck i found what was causing the problem a loose wire inside a 4 plug extention leed was cutting the power to the computer blamed everything bar that to but alls well nowyou will have to get those fingers going walter [make up for lost time mate] haha
walterboswell59 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 will do joe i will give you all a wee insight into paramyxo virus shortly in the hope it will help others what to expect and how to deal with it
andy Burgess Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 will do joe i will give you all a wee insight into paramyxo virus shortly in the hope it will help others what to expect and how to deal with it will look forward to reading that Walter . doing a great job showing us novices what youve learnt
walterboswell59 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 dont know if ive learned that much andy still a lot of questions un ansered but its something we must talk about and learn from its nothing that should be hidden or ashamed of theres no one more carefull than i and i still got it but the frightning thing is how many fanciers have contacted me to tell me they have it also its wide spread everywhere and there has to be a reason for it and everything i have now learned is pointing to a problem with the noblis vacine not giving the protection its supposed to when i said this to defra they did not want to know saying it could be a bad batch or birds not jagged properly or guys are not vacinating them which is rubbish as i was taught how to vacinate the birds by the maff years ago and have jagged thousands of birds with no problems and showed them all my records and vacine bottles that the birds were jagged with but i can now understand why guys are reluctant to tell defra as they offer no help at all but theres always some creep will tell them for you anyway makes them feel like they have done there duty but thats another matter my advice to all you guys out there is jag all your birds again right now before its at your door as from now on i will vacinate mine every six months if you all remember its not so long ago that avian vets were advising fanciers to vacinate twice which i thought was stupid at the time as the vacination is supose to protect the birds for one year now i think its not so stupid if they know something we dont ie the vacine is not protecting them for a year or its mutated and the one dose is not strong enough and the wool is being pulled over our eyes by noblis so lots of things to think about guys i now have no dout what we call young bird sickness is spread by vacinating birds for paramyxo which i will go into tomorrow night in more detail in the hope it will help other guys
billt Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Well done Walter, good honest post, just what the fancy needs, not a cover up. I use Nobilis myself and I've probably said before my wife does the vaccination and I hold the bird, takes so long to do 60 I get bored but go with it as she is an ex-nurse and has to have it right, I check the next day to see if any have an oily patch on the spot (If any have they need to be done again, the dosage is very small and any leakage would render it not safe) and I always have at least one, that's being mega careful, That's why I like Nobilis being oil based you can check the following day, It's very important to get this one right. I don't race from home, only one -lofts but have never had young bird sickness or PMV.
andy Burgess Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Well done Walter, good honest post, just what the fancy needs, not a cover up. I use Nobilis myself and I've probably said before my wife does the vaccination and I hold the bird, takes so long to do 60 I get bored but go with it as she is an ex-nurse and has to have it right, I check the next day to see if any have an oily patch on the spot (If any have they need to be done again, the dosage is very small and any leakage would render it not safe) and I always have at least one, that's being mega careful, That's why I like Nobilis being oil based you can check the following day, It's very important to get this one right. I don't race from home, only one -lofts but have never had young bird sickness or PMV. any or many strays in Bill ?? i am thinking regards ,cross contamination with non-vaccinated birds ?
William Reid Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 dont know if ive learned that much andy still a lot of questions un ansered but its something we must talk about and learn from its nothing that should be hidden or ashamed of theres no one more carefull than i and i still got it but the frightning thing is how many fanciers have contacted me to tell me they have it also its wide spread everywhere and there has to be a reason for it and everything i have now learned is pointing to a problem with the noblis vacine not giving the protection its supposed to when i said this to defra they did not want to know saying it could be a bad batch or birds not jagged properly or guys are not vacinating them which is rubbish as i was taught how to vacinate the birds by the maff years ago and have jagged thousands of birds with no problems and showed them all my records and vacine bottles that the birds were jagged with but i can now understand why guys are reluctant to tell defra as they offer no help at all but theres always some creep will tell them for you anyway makes them feel like they have done there duty but thats another matter my advice to all you guys out there is jag all your birds again right now before its at your door as from now on i will vacinate mine every six months if you all remember its not so long ago that avian vets were advising fanciers to vacinate twice which i thought was stupid at the time as the vacination is supose to protect the birds for one year now i think its not so stupid if they know something we dont ie the vacine is not protecting them for a year or its mutated and the one dose is not strong enough and the wool is being pulled over our eyes by noblis so lots of things to think about guys i now have no dout what we call young bird sickness is spread by vacinating birds for paramyxo which i will go into tomorrow night in more detail in the hope it will help other guysGood evening Walter I know we haven't had a chat for a good few months but I have to disagree with your statement about nobilis vaccine I have used it for a number of years with the gun wich gives the correct amount every time and never had a problem with para. But you do know my position about stray birds and very late arrivals
billt Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 any or many strays in Bill ?? i am thinking regards ,cross contamination with non-vaccinated birds ? No Andy I never have strays in here, I get the odd one with the old open-loft mob but they never come up to the other lofts
MIK Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Looks like plugs fckd again . :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:
walterboswell59 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 Good evening Walter I know we haven't had a chat for a good few months but I have to disagree with your statement about nobilis vaccine I have used it for a number of years with the gun wich gives the correct amount every time and never had a problem with para. But you do know my position about stray birds and very late arrivals i know what your saying billy but there could be another reason you dont get it m8 ie your birds dont mix as often with other peoples birds as you dont go to many races or train in a training van hence your chances of catching it are much less than someone racing every week and in a training van with other birds 2 or 3 times a week same with the guys that dont race and dont get it the more often your birds are in a basket with other birds the more chance you have of catching something and the more birds are coming home late and the same reason we dont get much problem in the winter time the birds are not mixing with others
William Reid Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 i know what your saying billy but there could be another reason you dont get it m8 ie your birds dont mix as often with other peoples birds as you dont go to many races or train in a training van hence your chances of catching it are much less than someone racing every week and in a training van with other birds 2 or 3 times a week same with the guys that dont race and dont get it the more often your birds are in a basket with other birds the more chance you have of catching something and the more birds are coming home late and the same reason we dont get much problem in the winter time the birds are not mixing with othersWalter are you talking about para with this post or the combination of the usual ailments
walterboswell59 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 both billy but in the main birds vaccinated against paramyxo virus should not be getting paramyxo but its something i will let the guys make up there own minds about it when i have time to go into it and tell them my findings if ive time ill try and explain what happened or what i think happened tonight when ive more time
William Reid Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 both billy but in the main birds vaccinated against paramyxo virus should not be getting paramyxo but its something i will let the guys make up there own minds about it when i have time to go into it and tell them my findings if ive time ill try and explain what happened or what i think happened tonight when ive more timeOk Walter looking forward to your post
Delboy Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 both billy but in the main birds vaccinated against paramyxo virus should not be getting paramyxo but its something i will let the guys make up there own minds about it when i have time to go into it and tell them my findings if ive time ill try and explain what happened or what i think happened tonight when ive more time Ive said on here many times, ive had para 3 times and have always vaccinated religiously. Now I do it twice a year as Ive been told the dosage doesn't cover them for a year.ps.Nothing up with nobilis as the times I got it I used Colombavac and chevita 200, both water based. Never had a problem since using Nobilis.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 Ive said on here many times, ive had para 3 times and have always vaccinated religiously. Now I do it twice a year as Ive been told the dosage doesn't cover them for a year.ps.Nothing up with nobilis as the times I got it I used Colombavac and chevita 200, both water based. Never had a problem since using Nobilis.Have to agree with you on that Del,have always used Nobilis since we first had pigeons and never ever had any problem with it and have no intention of using anything else as long as we can get it.
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