showman Posted October 19, 2009 Report Posted October 19, 2009 If you believed it was for the future good of the sport, would you be prepared to keep your birds at home, not subscribing to your club, fed , ruling body or buying new stock, but simply feeding them at home for a year ?
jimmy_bulger Posted October 19, 2009 Report Posted October 19, 2009 i would because i have not been able to let my birds out since july 2008 because of the raptors.
greenlands Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 i would because i have not been able to let my birds out since july 2008 because of the raptors. Us lads in Cumbria are just about going down the sane road as you Jimmy.I once said to myself (a long time ago)if I hvae to keep them in I might aswell keep Canaries or something along that line,well I think they've been out half a dozen times since the last race.Not my way of keeping pigeons but you can loose as many round the loft this time of year as you do racing.Sad to say with declining club members ,bickering over trivial things,birds illnesses ,excessive amount of peregrines/sparrow hawks ,costs and getting older,I'm loosing interest.With a bit of luck this winter and a few sensible meetings, Fed and Club ,things might look brighter.Sorry to go off subject but it's a fact. Lindsay C.
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 I think what showman is getting at is nothing to do with raptors! If I read it correctly and following other thread, if we kept the birds at home and paid no fees would it make the Unions sit up and listen then reorganise the whole system as has been sugested for the better and future of the sport. Sorry Showman if i've missunderstood your thread though. Phil
greenlands Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Hi pjc, Sorry if I picked it up wrong,if that's the case,I think in this area most fanciers would pack in when they sit down and see what it's cost for a season.More than likely the fed would wrap up the haulier would say if you don't want me this year I might not be here next year. Lindsay
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 But that is the only way to force the unions hand and make changes. Do you realy think that many would pack in, yes they may not breed many that season but wouldn't be paying fees either?
showman Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Posted October 20, 2009 Quite alright pjc.....you got it right....nothing to do with raptors..well, not the feathered type !!
The Game Keeper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 i am fed up with the way things are run now i myself cannot get in any club on my doorstep the unions give no backing to people that cante get in a club i am thankfull but for how long i donte no that i travel 30 miles to basket my birds in a club who as been refused entry into a federation who were willing to affiliate us but the n.e. union refused us what the eck is happening with what used to be called asport if i cante race i will be another to go out of racing not through choice rules rules most of these commities donte even race pigeons and were giving them a pay rise to put men out of pigeons its more like comunisem what are they doing for us
Roland Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Mind Gamekeeper, if you really want to pee them off.... Jion a fed. Just turn up with your birds and they HAVE to market them etc. etc and send them to the race points. Have don't it. They can't refuse and it gets up their noses you not having to pay marking / club / subs etc. etc. Of course you go along Saturday night whatever, and see how your birds have fared as if a Fully paid up member. Yes they put them through to allow you your Velocity. Had a couple of Scum clubs not far from me.... One now wanting new members, and one still refusing any fancier that has a pigeon that is able to breathe, let alone fly. Am in three clubs, one 20 miles away the other 10 miles east. One now on par, east wise and only 6 miles away.
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 This is the whole point Game Keeper thats being made. The union's won't change until there hand is forced. If the union's set the boundry's for clubs and federations then all members within that are will belong to that club, nobody to be refused. If a member in that club then causes problems there are rules to deal with them, but how many will cause problems knowing there isn't another club for them to race in?
The Game Keeper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 you have to be in a club to joine afed i cante get in a club other than the club i am in who are having to appeal to coventry to try and fly with a fed what the hell is wrong with these people no wonder pigeons is going to the wall
marmite Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 think u can join feds as independants theres a few in our fed with no clubs they just race for fed cards
chickadee Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Rules are rules and if you question them you are deemed a trouble maker and you will either be warned, suspended or banned to avoid further conflict and that is not just pigeon racing it is the same in most walks of life where people in power abuse them and hide behind them. It was the same when I was a nurse :-/
THE FIFER Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 think u can join feds as independants theres a few in our fed with no clubs they just race for fed cards normaly its clubs which are members of a fed not individual members, individuals ar affiliated through the club,
chickadee Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 normaly its clubs which are members of a fed not individual members, individuals ar affiliated through the club, Can you not become an individual member of the SHU and get rings without joining a club???
Guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Can you not become an individual member of the SHU and get rings without joining a club??? aye
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Can you not become an individual member of the SHU and get rings without joining a club??? You can be a member of the RPRA and get rings but it doesn't mean you can turn up at a club and send your birds without being a member otherwise nobody would bother to join clubs.
THE FIFER Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Can you not become an individual member of the SHU and get rings without joining a club??? yes the shu you can but not the Federation,
Roland Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 You can be a member of the RPRA and get rings but it doesn't mean you can turn up at a club and send your birds without being a member otherwise nobody would bother to join clubs. Not so. You can be a RPRA member or a Fed member without being in a club. Kempston etc. flew with Raunds club for a season or so and had their birds took till the boundary was opened up. However NO club can refuse to mark and send birds through if asked. If out the radious, or not allowed to jion for whatever reason THEY MUST take your birds. A member of the RPRA can buy rings for example without being in a Club / or Fed. But unless you can't be a member for any reason, who would want to, or then have the gall to just turn up. A fellow near me peeved a few off. said he wasn't going to race with the club anymore. So resigned. Next season he turn up as normal and sent them as trainers, which of course had to be rubbered etc. Triedit the second season and he was peeved of because they said he HAD to pay the same fee to send as trainers. yes went the first season with out paying for his birds to be sent. So yes, turn up and pay the same fee and they have to take them.... Any CLUB within the Fed radious. Fd member or not even I believe, because the umbrella of the RPRA covers you. Indeed if a few more like me actually did it - which I did - more clubs would think twice about refusing membership.Especially after a season of carting non members birds lol.
THE FIFER Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 you certainly cant be a member of a fed in scotland without being a member of a club.
Delboy Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 you certainly cant be a member of a fed in scotland without being a member of a club. Dont think thats right m8, I know guys that flew for fed positions only and were not members of any club :-/
ALF Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Dont think thats right m8, I know guys that flew for fed positions only and were not members of any club :-/ That's right it happened to Wings04 on here a couple of years back
tiger Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 you certainly cant be a member of a fed in scotland without being a member of a club. not sure if thats right mate
showman Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Posted October 20, 2009 I think the idea of this thread / poll is getting lost !!
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 whats this got to do with the original post?
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