Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Im not disputing there results.. Old Rab is a cracking doo man.. they've had some incredible results over they years.. I just dont think the birds can come on the line Stus' saying... maybe up the east side of the valley.. but not over it from the east..
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Im not disputing there results.. Old Rab is a cracking doo man.. they've had some incredible results over they years.. I just dont think the birds can come on the line Stus' saying... maybe up the east side of the valley.. but not over it from the east..its irelevant what direction they came from , the point is they topped fed so if they can do it , nothing to stop anyone else with some descent birds and a bit of hard graft
Fair Play Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 I have topped the fed Flying into Dumbarton but the bird still came round the quarry if the birds hugged the K/Hills all the way to the Haldane it may well look as if they had come over the hill.Early this year I has a bird in belonging a Fife fancier of great repute numerous national wins and also another bird from a fancier in Dunfermline he came down and picked up both birds and his words were " How the can you fly birds into this area if it were me I would chuck first " and that is no lie.
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 I have topped the fed Flying into Dumbarton but the bird still came round the quarry if the birds hugged the K/Hills all the way to the Haldane it may well look as if they had come over the hill.Early this year I has a bird in belonging a Fife fancier of great repute numerous national wins and also another bird from a fancier in Dunfermline he came down and picked up both birds and his words were " How the can you fly birds into this area if it were me I would chuck first " and that is no lie. not tough enough in the east then Tom, ;D ;D wouldnt suit the one eyed gunners down your way. Winning down there has been done can be done and will be done again
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Just a point of interest Hotrod.. and Fairplay will confirm this.. We had a club meeting and Stevie and Rab both said they did not want to race form the East.. and both agreed with proposing to race from where i was saying..
Fair Play Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Hi Robert That was when we raced down the West coast but will have to get used to the East unless it's changed By the way the fancier who made the statement was Giles Mournian if anyone knows him ask him about his visit to Renton with his good lady.
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 what about big allys birds if they wont come over the hills then hes got no chance birds will go over hills if the wind is right (south ) the big prob will then be will they stop or carry on and turn the weather will determin how the birds come as i said before i dont think this is about where the lib. point is its more how much overfly some will or wont get
greenlands Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Hi Robert That was when we raced down the West coast but will have to get used to the East unless it's changed By the way the fancier who made the statement was Giles Mournian if anyone knows him ask him about his visit to Renton with his good lady. You lads won't like the West coast anymore,the lads round here are sick before they get to the first race.BOP>>> Lindsay.
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 You lads won't like the West coast anymore,the lads round here are sick before they get to the first race.BOP>>> Lindsay. Thanks Lyndsay sence at last.
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 We dont want to race from the west.. just not so far east.. The middle of Scotland then east of england..
ALF Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 The pigeons have never came over the hills.. and this was Jack McGougan that told me that.. that they never have and never will.... I was down a couple of times last year watching my good friend Malky Brown who stays down in Arrochar pigeons come from races and in 1 of them they came right over the top of the hill looking back towards the Arrochar hotel so pigeons will come over the hills
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 You lads won't like the West coast anymore,the lads round here are sick before they get to the first race.BOP>>> Lindsay. your 100% correct the shu paid a fortune to find that out and still some want to go down that route why (BECAUSE OF OVERFLY ) simple yes they know that
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 I was down a couple of times last year watching my good friend Malky Brown who stays down in Arrochar pigeons come from races and in 1 of them they came right over the top of the hill looking back towards the Arrochar hotel so pigeons will come over the hills Im not saying they wont fly over hills.. im saying they have never been known to fly over the hills east of where we live.. Which is where the early racepoints are, thus making them have to go south and dog leg in as some point..
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 what were the returns from the st boswells races when yous raced them ? for the fed i mean
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Im not sure about the fed.. but our club i would say 50%
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Im not sure about the fed.. but our club i would say 50% thats the point i was trying to make jonsy their is only about 3 lib points in that area st bos. kelso coldstream the 1st two have prob with the hills bien very close to the lib point and of course that means percy can be on top of the birds without them seing it we raced kelso for 3/4 years (twice a week)with very irattic returns went to cold stream had no probs but its in the east there are no suitable lib areas to let a convoy go its ok putting a few baskets on top of a hedge to lib but a transporter is very different plus the need for water and toilet fac. for convoyer the important thing is getting the birds home and keep the loses to a min.
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 thats the point i was trying to make jonsy their is only about 3 lib points in that area st bos. kelso coldstream the 1st two have prob with the hills bien very close to the lib point and of course that means percy can be on top of the birds without them seing it we raced kelso for 3/4 years (twice a week)with very irattic returns went to cold stream had no probs but its in the east there are no suitable lib areas to let a convoy go its ok putting a few baskets on top of a hedge to lib but a transporter is very different plus the need for water and toilet fac. for convoyer the important thing is getting the birds home and keep the loses to a min. Exactly that Frank dont understand wanting to start birds of a places where there are poor returns and eratic races :-/ :-/
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Exactly that Frank dont understand wanting to start birds of a places where there are poor returns and eratic races :-/ :-/ at least you spelt it right ;D ;D ;D
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 So your telling me between crawford and kelso down the middle of the country there is not one single place that would be suitable to liberate pigeons..??? Remember new sites can be proposed to the rpra as long as there more than 8 miles form another lib site.. Id rather just start at Otterburn than have Cockenzie/ Dunbar/ St.Boswell/ Berwick..
greenlands Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 We dont want to race from the west.. just not so far east.. The middle of Scotland then east of england.. The only other way down the road is by the M6,Shap etc.looks like hawk country to me. Lindsay
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Why is that..?? theres plenty of other roads.. we do need need to stick to motorways.. and the transporter isn't really that big... Im more concerned about whats best for the pigeons than whats best, or should i say more convenient, for the transporter/convoyer..
Guest frank dooman Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 So your telling me between crawford and kelso down the middle of the country there is not one single place that would be suitable to liberate pigeons..??? Remember new sites can be proposed to the rpra as long as there more than 8 miles form another lib site.. Id rather just start at Otterburn than have Cockenzie/ Dunbar/ St.Boswell/ Berwick.. no jonsey iam telling you i dont know of any and ive trained my birds and a big clubs birds for years and cant remember any unless you go to the coastal area thats the big prob ive used lauder/peebles/ hawick galashields all ok for a basket or two if your a brave man remember its ok for you to lose your birds but its not ok to risk other fanciers birds and when you move into they areas thats what you will be doing
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 So where are all the other clubs in central/west of scotlannd having their first few race points..??
ALF Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 Jonesy at the end of the day you can shout to the high heavens on here about where you want the doos to start from but at the end of the day the only place it can be changed is your fed AGM...
Guest stb- Posted December 3, 2009 Report Posted December 3, 2009 So your telling me between crawford and kelso down the middle of the country there is not one single place that would be suitable to liberate pigeons..??? Remember new sites can be proposed to the rpra as long as there more than 8 miles form another lib site.. Id rather just start at Otterburn than have Cockenzie/ Dunbar/ St.Boswell/ Berwick.. not being funny johnsey but has that not been a slaughter and major loss of birds the last few years. is your objective for the good of the birds or just to cut your feeding bill by 70% :-/ :-/
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