Glasgow Fed GONE MAD..!!

[Guest frank dooman]

 

Im me ;D ;D

 

your  not me i know who me is its not you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[hotrod]

 

your  not me i know who me is its not you ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

its no ME  either lol

[fastblack]

got 2 ask the convoyer and race controler that one.

 

I suppose if its clear at the race point and good most of the way home they wont hold because its raining in one area. you could hold and it would be raining everywhere the next week

 

 

do u think they would lib if east was mankie & west was clear they would go i think not

[Guest frank dooman]

 

do u think they would lib if east was mankie & west was clear they would go i think not

 

who was the controler for the race? i dont think the people who do thease jobs would do anything to harm any area but sometimes it can not be helped

[Guest stb-]

 

do u think they would lib if east was mankie & west was clear they would go i think not

 

well as the race point is more easterly and the birds would be oming up that way to start with i would prob think not, but it is a hard call to make

 

[fastblack]

 

who was the controler for the race? i dont think the people who do thease jobs would do anything to harm any area but sometimes it can not be helped

 

not knocking controller a thankless job & he never wins brave guys who do the job & take my hat off to them

[Guest frank dooman]

 

not knocking controller a thankless job & he never wins brave guys who do the job & take my hat off to them

 

yes i know i thought the snfc controller was in the west but if the weather turns nasty nothing any one can do thats pigeon raceing thats what makes it so good

[THE FIFER]

sorted it and unlocked,please keep on topic

[Fair Play]

Sorted! and killed stone dead :(

[Roland]

Great that I don't believe in Breaking points. Great that I believe we can't harness the wind ... perhap adjust our sails a mite.

In reality just who in their right mind wants birds to break at a certain point  :-/ :-/

If that was  a reality then it also must follow that most weeks the birds would fly out their way to go there.

Only time a bird ever comes on line is when the wind is right for it.

As birds zig - zag constantley, regards when one sees them go straight like arrows, and fly in an Arc to home, then the realism is that one trains birds for fitness / exercise, and to hone the homing instinc.

Great that no one  - unless of necate, or moveing to the East of another Fed / Club, positions are bought to the East. the more easterly the better.

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

The point that is being made is.. where we live in Alexandria we are in a massive valley with a river running up the middle.. the pigeons cant only enter, and will only enter this valley from the South.. when we then race from due east or eaterly points less than 100 miles (again im just reffering to yb racing) the birds nave no other option but to fly in a big dog leg.. even if the fly on the fastest and most direct line. The birds can still only come via the start of the valley..

 

 

[hotrod]

The point that is being made is.. where we live in Alexandria we are in a massive valley with a river running up the middle.. the pigeons cant only enter, and will only enter this valley from the South.. when we then race from due east or eaterly points less than 100 miles (again im just reffering to yb racing) the birds nave no other option but to fly in a big dog leg.. even if the fly on the fastest and most direct line. The birds can still only come via the start of the valley..

 

 

how far up the valley does you loft lie ? i would think  max 2 or 3 miles and if the wind is east your birds would  come over the hills or they used to anyway,as the hills are not that high .

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

The pigeons have never came over the hills.. and this was Jack McGougan that told me that.. that they never have and never will....

[hotrod]

well mate ask stevie mackeen he has had birds come over the hills a few years ago when he was doing very well and he topped the fed quite a few times , now i can only put it down to bad management ,bad birds ,bad health or maybe a combination or all of them.

[johno]

pigeons are usually airborne when making their way home. it does appear some of mine usually walk the time they take. this allows the pigeon to go north south up down east west. when you are in the air barriers that seem big when looking at them from the ground disappear when you are in the air. birds can negotiate physical contours at will. the only occasion this is not true is when something stops them. perigrines for example. wind or other extreme weather for others. if we would let the doos be a doos and stopped trying to be doos ourselves maybe this would help our understanding.

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Okay mate.. ive bad doos with bad health and bad management..

 

Not one pigeon man ive ever spoke to has ever had a doo over the hills.. Jack McGougan told me in over 50 years of racing doos he never once saw a doo come over the hills, even tho for years he tried to train them from the other side of the hills.. my dad told me in 20 years racing he never saw a doo come over those hills..

 

But Stevie McKeen told you his came over the hills.. made my night mate.. funniest thing ive heard for weeks..

[Guest bigda]

The pigeons have never came over the hills.. and this was Jack McGougan that told me that.. that they never have and naver will....

 

oh well,  your better of  keeping show mice then,  cant do nothing about the valleys p.s  why are there so manny different   fanciers winning then  jack  MC gougan had no trouble  wullie gass never seemed to stop those guys,   and a lot at,   and in the dunbarton compound   :-/

[Guest stb-]

The pigeons have never came over the hills.. and this was Jack McGougan that told me that.. that they never have and never will....

 

utter nonsence :-/  This is not about race points in the east this is about  not being in a spot with a tactical advantage.

 

As Roland said earlier do you really think your birds racing from say rippon will head for Dunbar then take a left to head back inland  :-/   not a chance they will take the shortest practical route available to them on the day with weather conditions contributing

 

 

[hotrod]

Okay mate.. ive bad doos with bad health and bad management..

 

Not one pigeon man ive ever spoke to has ever had a doo over the hills.. Jack McGougan told me in over 50 years of racing doos he never once saw a doo come over the hills, even tho for years he tried to train them from the other side of the hills.. my dad told me in 20 years racing he never saw a doo come over those hills..

 

But Stevie McKeen told you his came over the hills.. made my night mate.. funniest thing ive heard for weeks..

 

well mate im only saying what he has told me ,if the birds come up the valley hes usually beat but if they come over his head ,ie over the hills then he was well in .just ask him and dont laugh please .and i never said you had health probs(with your birds) or anything youve only just started back up so will need time to build a team ,then after a few years and your not doing well then yes theres something wrong .but all the other established fanciers that are not doing well then yes they should look in the mirror and ask a question .

[hotrod]

i have just spoken to stevie and he has told heshad a few birds come over the hills  but not many ,hes topped the fed with them coming over and hes topped the fed doing the dog leg that you talk about, so why are they not doing it now  ps this was only 2/3 years ago and he has confirmed that he now doesnt have good enough birds to win like had used to.as he changed all his all round birds to a more distance minde family .

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

So that means the doo has flown over the campsies then how ever many more miles to the other side of Auchencarroch then over that..?? I think if you ask any other fancier thats flew down here he'll find this un believable.. but fair play to Stevie if his doos come that way..

 

Tell you something tho.. if i had doos that came on a line thats never been heard of in 50 years i wouldn't be changing them..

[Guest stb-]

maybe it would be an idea to find out what he did with them and try and get some  

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Some Van Pinocchio's...

[Guest stb-]

Some Van Pinocchio's...

well he was doing the buisness with them

 

so van ponochios is whats required then ,

 

with the results he had  they were better than the rest on the day

 

 

[Fair Play]

When I raced before in Dumbarton I was in the position to watch the Dumbarton and Alexandria birds come round Dumbuck Quarry If Stevie had birds that came over the hill why do they still not fly that route and he would be the winner every week  and we would all be desperate to find the secret Anyone of the old fliers that I know have never seen birds come over the hill I have taken my bird to milton up towards Overtoun house and you can see down the valley and guess what they all headed South towards the Clyde down to  Dumbarton then up the Valley not as bad as Big Wullie his ended up in Cheshire (from Milton) not the glasgow Milton. Jonesy's father and uncles who flew as Jones Bros will give you a better idea as they flew for a good no of years in Alexandria my late mate Hammy Connolly used to say if they could get these birds to come over the hill they would have a winner and his Father old Tommy Connolly never had them over the hill nor did Donny Archibald as his birds would have came back up the valley unless they had overshot.Now that Dumbarton are applying maybe the boost of nos will make a difference maybe not but IMO they are not all bad birds or fliers