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I would be very interested in having a read at that book as i haven't ever seen one or even knew there was such a book published. Most interesting thing would be Who published it.

the SHU have them john convoyers guide . But with this weather be aswell with hitch hikers guid to the galaxy lol

[JohnQuinn]

Makes sense there would be guidelines Rab but i have honestly never came across it. That'll change soon though now i know its there!!

[THE FIFER]

this is good getting information from the liberation site, so please dont start it into a slagging match , well done the convoyer, keep up the good work,

[knoxjn]

there is nothing in the shu convoyers controllers guide as to how long to rest the birds it an individuals call

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there is nothing in the shu convoyers controllers guide as to how long to rest the birds it an individuals call

so are there all different convoyers guides or rule books as stated ??

 

 

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View PostDave barrie, on 6 June 2014 - 19:39 PM, said:

my convoyer rulebook clearly states that birds must be rested after travelling a distance for no less than four hours.

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[Kennybhoy]

This is very interesting to me guys as this is my first ob season it's interesting to see all the different opinions on the matter,the only conclusion I've came to is I wouldn't be a race controller for all the tea in china,as I said I'm trying to learn..not saying anymore incase chad3646 (jimmy) slaughters me again...lol,aw the best guys for all involved

[walterboswell59]

this is good getting information from the liberation site, so please dont start it into a slagging match , well done the convoyer, keep up the good work,

hear hear good of the man to let us know whats happening and this is how it should be instead of the cloak and dagger stuff so lets not be giving the guy hassle

[peter pandy]

Firstly I have never complained at any time in the past or intend to in the future regarding any of the convoyers who are in charge of our birds as I have always held them in the greatest esteem.

It was to be a magnificent and enlightening report John posted informing us on basics what was the duties he was carrying out enroute to Buckingham, I posted originally what I believed to be the way forward for the future with perhaps the SNFC Management Committee wishing to look that way.(wishfull thinking).

I took the position of experience and looked at the Marking Station times starting at Aberdeen, John rightly stated that birds would have been basketed and away from the loft from 09.00 Hrs on Thursday without water, Dont they put drinkers on the baskets at Aberdeen ?. The Aberdeen baskets would then be taken to Dundee where they would be offloaded and drinkers put on in the wait to depart to Novar in Fife Where I assume they would be given water again before placing on the transporter at 18.00 Hrs. Therefore the North birds and the Transporter would have been on its way to pick up the remaining Marking Stations. To my way of thought their would have been 2 drivers working in tandem and although the transporter left Gretna at 01.30 it could and should have been in Buckingham at 06.00 as overnight travel down the M6 is extremely light. I dare say one or two people might wonder how it took so long to reach Gretna when Springfield marking station closed at 21.00 Hrs. This post is not intended to belittle anyone as it is my view on the situation with our birds now facing their third night in a basket when we all knew this was going to be the case and perhaps been avoided as done with other organisations.

[Guest stb-]

Firstly I have never complained at any time in the past or intend to in the future regarding any of the convoyers who are in charge of our birds as I have always held them in the greatest esteem.

It was to be a magnificent and enlightening report John posted informing us on basics what was the duties he was carrying out enroute to Buckingham, I posted originally what I believed to be the way forward for the future with perhaps the SNFC Management Committee wishing to look that way.(wishfull thinking).

I took the position of experience and looked at the Marking Station times starting at Aberdeen, John rightly stated that birds would have been basketed and away from the loft from 09.00 Hrs on Thursday without water, Dont they put drinkers on the baskets at Aberdeen ?. The Aberdeen baskets would then be taken to Dundee where they would be offloaded and drinkers put on in the wait to depart to Novar in Fife Where I assume they would be given water again before placing on the transporter at 18.00 Hrs. Therefore the North birds and the Transporter would have been on its way to pick up the remaining Marking Stations. To my way of thought their would have been 2 drivers working in tandem and although the transporter left Gretna at 01.30 it could and should have been in Buckingham at 06.00 as overnight travel down the M6 is extremely light. I dare say one or two people might wonder how it took so long to reach Gretna when Springfield marking station closed at 21.00 Hrs. This post is not intended to belittle anyone as it is my view on the situation with our birds now facing their third night in a basket when we all knew this was going to be the case and perhaps been avoided as done with other organisations.

well said Peter we are a bit behind the times on this aspect though , but im sure the lads will be looking after the birds 110% , just think its another day away from home for the convoyer ( some might like that ) and its a cost in monetery terms every day the birds are held over

[Delboy]

Good post Peter. Nobody is ever having a go at the convoyers, we only are debating whats best for our pigeons. Two 7 tonners could've taken the birds down instead of using Johns own artic and another transporter. Different rules for an artic but if 2 drivers on it ( which there should be )then no probs and the birds would've and could've been up on Friday. So what you've got is the hire of Johns lorry for 4 days minimum instead of 2 as well as expenses and convoyers wages. A pretty big bill that could've been easily halved. Still, not having a go, business is business and if I was John, Id do exactly the same but I disagree with all the posts that said it is a THANKLESS JOB, its well paid imo.The weather is still dodgy for tomorrow but slight chance early imo.

[Flat out]

Firstly I have never complained at any time in the past or intend to in the future regarding any of the convoyers who are in charge of our birds as I have always held them in the greatest esteem.

It was to be a magnificent and enlightening report John posted informing us on basics what was the duties he was carrying out enroute to Buckingham, I posted originally what I believed to be the way forward for the future with perhaps the SNFC Management Committee wishing to look that way.(wishfull thinking).

I took the position of experience and looked at the Marking Station times starting at Aberdeen, John rightly stated that birds would have been basketed and away from the loft from 09.00 Hrs on Thursday without water, Dont they put drinkers on the baskets at Aberdeen ?. The Aberdeen baskets would then be taken to Dundee where they would be offloaded and drinkers put on in the wait to depart to Novar in Fife Where I assume they would be given water again before placing on the transporter at 18.00 Hrs. Therefore the North birds and the Transporter would have been on its way to pick up the remaining Marking Stations. To my way of thought their would have been 2 drivers working in tandem and although the transporter left Gretna at 01.30 it could and should have been in Buckingham at 06.00 as overnight travel down the M6 is extremely light. I dare say one or two people might wonder how it took so long to reach Gretna when Springfield marking station closed at 21.00 Hrs. This post is not intended to belittle anyone as it is my view on the situation with our birds now facing their third night in a basket when we all knew this was going to be the case and perhaps been avoided as done with other organisations.

I wonder why we bother

 

Good post Peter. Nobody is ever having a go at the convoyers, we only are debating whats best for our pigeons. Two 7 tonners could've taken the birds down instead of using Johns own artic and another transporter. Different rules for an artic but if 2 drivers on it ( which there should be )then no probs and the birds would've and could've been up on Friday. So what you've got is the hire of Johns lorry for 4 days minimum instead of 2 as well as expenses and convoyers wages. A pretty big bill that could've been easily halved. Still, not having a go, business is business and if I was John, Id do exactly the same but I disagree with all the posts that said it is a THANKLESS JOB, its well paid imo.The weather is still dodgy for tomorrow but slight chance early imo.

There's no big bill I'm sitting here for £150 for my day and supplying a lorry into the bargin how many people would do that

[Delboy]

I wonder why we bother

 

 

There's no big bill I'm sitting here for £150 for my day and supplying a lorry into the bargin how many people would do that

 

Brilliant, no charge for your wagon? Well done m8.

[Pego]

I wonder why we bother

 

 

There's no big bill I'm sitting here for £150 for my day and supplying a lorry into the bargin how many people would do that

 

Top man John and we all saw the forecast before we sent our pigeons

[frank-123]

Went back over every thread no one questioned the convoyer or drivers. The point I was trying to make no one knows if the birds benefit from a rest of four hours. Seems like it is a prefrence of fanciers.

[Guest Hey Presto]

These boys seem to know all john just u keep up the good work u have not given fife a bad race yet so keep up the good work mybe the wind not suiting them on sunday

[Delboy]

not a .... has said anything about the convoyers, READ THE POSTS expletive remove.

[Guest chad3646]

This is very interesting to me guys as this is my first ob season it's interesting to see all the different opinions on the matter,the only conclusion I've came to is I wouldn't be a race controller for all the tea in china,as I said I'm trying to learn..not saying anymore incase chad3646 (jimmy) slaughters me again...lol,aw the best guys for all involved

 

 

kennybhoy, feel free to voice your opinion that,s what the forums all about, in my opinion there is not enough people voicing there opinion, and for me slaughtering any one come of it would i ever lol

[hotrod]

Went back over every thread no one questioned the convoyer or drivers. The point I was trying to make no one knows if the birds benefit from a rest of four hours. Seems like it is a prefrence of fanciers.

 

Spot on frank , just controllers preference ,which is why I posted ( I want 4hrs rest or OUR. BIRDS ). And well done John mc cord for keeping us all informed on the pigeons .

[Flat out]

That's your birds got a feed and clean fresh water

Lovely evening here with big white fluffy clouds

Water will be topped up before dark

[alec guinness]

That's your birds got a feed and clean fresh water

Lovely evening here with big white fluffy clouds

Water will be topped up before dark

 

Great stuff and good luck for the morning.

[dal2]

That's your birds got a feed and clean fresh water

Lovely evening here with big white fluffy clouds

Water will be topped up before dark

Thanks mate

 

Any chance ye can let min aff now........feel i might need it lol

 

 

 

Good job

[Guest stb-]

Thanks mate

 

Any chance ye can let min aff now........feel i might need it lol

 

 

 

Good job

expletive remove Steve they might land in the grampians and no the ochils the now way the sooth wind

[frank-123]

That's your birds got a feed and clean fresh water

Lovely evening here with big white fluffy clouds

Water will be topped up before dark

 

If your bored it would be great to see some pictures of the doos in the baskets and the surrounding area.

[dal2]

expletive remove Steve they might land in the grampians and no the ochils the now way the sooth wind

I would still be strugglin if mine went now robert