Train Or Not

[philg50]

Does everyone train there birds ,if they are fit and flying well at home ,do they need to be learnt way home ,or are we waisting time ,after all they have inbuilt homing instinct what do you yhink.

[Delboy]

I think all birds need trained but only a couple at the start of season for the old campaigners. But if they fly well at home then you've won a watch and can save a lot on fuel.YBS is a different kettle of fish, they need plenty of training imo.

[jim]

not worth the risk hawk attacks every time

all members been hit each time birds taking hours to do 10 mls

 

jobs about finished here in cumbria

[Delboy]

not worth the risk hawk attacks every time

all members been hit each time birds taking hours to do 10 mls

 

jobs about finished here in cumbria

 

Same everywhere Jim,ye have to fight back m8.

[greenlands]

not worth the risk hawk attacks every time

all members been hit each time birds taking hours to do 10 mls

 

jobs about finished here in cumbria

Had them at Bootle yesterday,must have been twenty baskets libbed,some lads were lucky I wasn't four missing and one back with a damaged wing,birds homing from all directions.

[harry h]

Does everyone train there birds ,if they are fit and flying well at home ,do they need to be learnt way home ,or are we waisting time ,after all they have inbuilt homing instinct what do you yhink.

 

I know some will not believe me or say that I'm taking pi sh, but last year Phil I never trained my old birds at all before or during the racing season and went on to win the Clubs Old Bird Averages

for the first time ever,I will be training them this year,so will see what happens.

[Wiley]

In my opinion, one of the best flyers in London and the South East area M. Connolly & Son, do not train as many will do and they haven't done for roughly 8 years. The only training the birds receive is roughly 30 meters from the lofts, on a green across the road from the family home. This is obviously only used to school the pigeons to trap.

[walterboswell59]

Same everywhere Jim,ye have to fight back m8.

took the words out my mouth dell you have to sort it yourselves jim its the only way m8

[Guest Owen]

i am a firm believer in training. I train from 6 miles until the birds are doing 60 mph regularly and then I move to 10 miles and stay there.

I reckon that my birds put a lot of effort into training and I know from what people have told be that they fly at great speed.

I have been told on several occasions that my birds fly low and hard. This is probably due to the fact that they have had a lot of training and know how to avoid the predators.

Birds that just exercise around the loft usually put very little effort into their work.

If you take any sport as an example if you want to reach the top and stay there you have to train.

These days we all have trouble with hawks and falcons but this is not the time of the year to try to deal with them. Stuff like this should be done in winter.

By training my birds and not exercising them around the loft I think I lose less than other people who live in the area.

[walterboswell59]

i agree with owen and my birds do fly well at home but training is a must for me dont need to go far but go often cant beat birds going over the same ground time and time again but it depends on what your trying to win to no point in battering birds down the road if you want them to win later in the year i only work the birds i want to win with just now and increase the time flying round the loft for the ones im trying with a few weeks before the races im having a go in i also fined that trained pigeons handle very different from flagged pigeons also birds flying round the loft dont need to think birds that are trained do imo

[Guest chad3646]

the best flyer in nationals in scotland at one time i m o flagged his birds round the loft for hours at a time JIM HANNAH

[VAGIN]

Same everywhere Jim,ye have to fight back m8.

 

And how do we fight back You tell me that one how do we do it ?????

[William Reid]

the best flyer in nationals in scotland at one time i m o flagged his birds round the loft for hours at a time JIM HANNAH

Totally agree jimmy.I watch the big man at his loft and the condition of his birds would be top class .

[walterboswell59]

the best flyer in nationals in scotland at one time i m o flagged his birds round the loft for hours at a time JIM HANNAH

your right jimmy but he trained as well m8

[Delboy]

And how do we fight back You tell me that one how do we do it ?????

 

Use your imagination, haven't you read the threads on here for years m8.

[Delboy]

When I was young we never trained our obs, we flagged them after 200 miles for 1 hour morning and night. We could tell when they were hitting form when doing this. Maybe methods are different now and sometimes we must adjust and go with the flow.

[geordie1234]

Less training the better imo with the bop issues we are having

... we are only one bad toss from a season killer

[Delboy]

Less training the better imo with the bop issues we are having

... we are only one bad toss from a season killer

 

Trainings ok if you have 2 separate teams like me and Walter, George The smaller team goes up first as they aren't as fit if you know what I mean. If everybody did this then the pigeon game would last for many years.

[tommy bhoys]

Less training the better imo with the bop issues we are having

... we are only one bad toss from a season killer

nt had a training toss yet and wont either nt feeding bop with my birds like them to much

[philg50]

The thing is i have started training ,the thing is you take them 10 -15 mile and they hit the roof as yer parkin the car and you, or should i say i think ,is it worth it i wonder??,its all private training up here you just have tae take them yourself. I have a good mind tae just take them 20 odd mile and cut out all the little runs .

[Delboy]

The thing is i have started training ,the thing is you take them 10 -15 mile and they hit the roof as yer parkin the car and you, or should i say i think ,is it worth it i wonder??,its all private training up here you just have tae take them yourself. I have a good mind tae just take them 20 odd mile and cut out all the little runs .

 

ive tossed my hens twice, 2 x 21 mile tosses,they beat me home both times.If they get fit at home before you toss then they ll beat you home .Its a waste of time and effort going shorter imo. My ybs start at 12 miles x 2 then third toss is 21mls.

[walterboswell59]

Trainings ok if you have 2 separate teams like me and Walter, George The smaller team goes up first as they aren't as fit if you know what I mean. If everybody did this then the pigeon game would last for many years.

at last someone who understands the problem and how to cure it thanks dell keeping your your birds flying round the loft aint going to help them on race day bop are hungry on a saturday to and if yours are not fit enough there the dinner imo if everyone did there bit we could sort this but to many want to moan and do nothing

[walterboswell59]

we had another great toss today 24 miles all home and in the loft in under 3 mins the unfit ones i tossed last week must have did the trick thats my latebreds had 27 tosses 5 went missing early on till i sorted the problem thats how easy it is guys had one guy who moans every year about getting hit had the cheek to phone and ask me where i train from i told him to get off his fat a e and clear his own training route

sorry but im fed up with the greetin

[Walter swanston]

Maybe I am missing something here ( very possible)' but pigeons being hit around the loft is the lesser problem down here. The major problem is falcons on every flight path in Cumbria and Dumfriesshire.I have no firm opinion on old bird training but of recent years I have thought that I would rather lose them in a race than on a training flight.Young birds are a different problem entirely.

[walterboswell59]

yip yer missing something walter