philg50 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Well lads feedin for your team do we need fancy mixes i am feeding Beans ,Maize ,Barley ,small amount of Wheat and for the small seed i am away for a bag of wild bird seed £10-50 a bag.Nothing special here just clean feed and plenty of it ,want my birds home ,i think todays feeding regimes leave the doos wanting if they are forced into a night out.What do you think???
Michael J Burden Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 I think you are right and wrong. Many roads lead to Rome as they say. I have seen nearly all bean no bean widowhood etc all do well. It all depends how much and when which is the trick along with the right excercise and breed too. Tab mjb
walterboswell59 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 good pigeons will win on any type of grain with good management imo
VAGIN Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Maybe you should check out your wild bird food, can be the sweepings off the floor Or infected by mice dropping which can cause you all problems with your birds . Wild birds are what they are and food produce can have anything mixed in I certainly would not be using it just to save a couple of£££
philg50 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Posted March 22, 2014 Maybe you should check out your wild bird food, can be the sweepings off the floor Or infected by mice dropping which can cause you all problems with your birds . Wild birds are what they are and food produce can have anything mixed in I certainly would not be using it just to save a couple of£££Its nae the saving that made me think o this its the varietey of seed in the bag that impressed me with this wild bird mixture ,its frae Longleys in Maud .
grdkeith Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Maybe you should check out your wild bird food, can be the sweepings off the floor Or infected by mice dropping which can cause you all problems with your birds . Wild birds are what they are and food produce can have anything mixed in I certainly would not be using it just to save a couple of£££ i agree, surely the seed in wild bird food will be the stuff that failed the quality controls for human / top class bird food
Guest chad3646 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 i agree, surely the seed in wild bird food will be the stuff that failed the quality controls for human / top class bird food shops cant afford to sell rubbish now,when did you last eat canary seed lol
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 shops cant afford to sell rubbish now,when did you last eat canary seed lolagree there Chad,we are friendly with the guy at our local pet shop and he has said everything he sells for rabbits to wild birds all is top quality feeding
walterboswell59 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Maybe you should check out your wild bird food, can be the sweepings off the floor Or infected by mice dropping which can cause you all problems with your birds . Wild birds are what they are and food produce can have anything mixed in I certainly would not be using it just to save a couple of£££where i would not feed wild bird seed incase it had been contaminated or damp and dried out the same thing could be happening with the stuff we are paying top dollar for who knows and apart from us who cares
peter pandy Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Having a little experience of a farming environment may I enlighten you on some facts. When grain is harvested it is stored in sheds which are usually open sided to the elements and all manner of wildlife has access to eat, sh**, pee on and generally contaminate. There are no precautions taken to keep the grain safe and free from contamination whether on the farm or at the dockside where grain ships are offloaded. Its just your Donald Duck whether your feeding contaminated grain or not IMO.
Guest Cawdy Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 think most of the mixes about are more for the fancier then the doo. take gerry plus. its almost the same nutritionally as strait barley except the fat content (barley 2-3 % vs GP 10.5) and as for minerals in a varied diet if there are none in the soil then there no in the grain and as most folk suppliment vits and minerals so personally don't see the need for a huge varied diet jmo i duked the breeding mix this year and just fed barley beans and No1 and the yb look great
walterboswell59 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Having a little experience of a farming environment may I enlighten you on some facts. When grain is harvested it is stored in sheds which are usually open sided to the elements and all manner of wildlife has access to eat, sh**, pee on and generally contaminate. There are no precautions taken to keep the grain safe and free from contamination whether on the farm or at the dockside where grain ships are offloaded. Its just your Donald Duck whether your feeding contaminated grain or not IMO.agree 100 percent peter your eye has to be your judge im afraid
TheHigg Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 COUNTRYWIDE ALLROUNDER 10 percent plus [promo] i love that bit add some beans barley and gem g10 pellets cheapest rearing season ive had and the youngsters are looking and handling great also some bozzies tonic a couple of times a week just to ward off any nasties that might be lurking about :emoticon-0138-thinking:
frankdooman Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 This is one I have to disagree with wild bird food can and over time will poison your birds your dicing with death in my mind as for winning with anything got to dissagree with u Walter top athletics have to eat the right stuff if u don't move with the times u will be left in the dark old days unless it's the shorter easier races JMO
Guest chad3646 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 This is one I have to disagree with wild bird food can and over time will poison your birds your dicing with death in my mind as for winning with anything got to dissagree with u Walter top athletics have to eat the right stuff if u don't move with the times u will be left in the dark old days unless it's the shorter easier races JMO what about usain bolt he lives on beef burgers, fact as i have said all along it is the pigeon
frankdooman Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 what about usain bolt he lives on beef burgers, fact as i have said all along it is the pigeon And u believe that
Guest chad3646 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Posted March 22, 2014 Having a little experience of a farming environment may I enlighten you on some facts. When grain is harvested it is stored in sheds which are usually open sided to the elements and all manner of wildlife has access to eat, sh**, pee on and generally contaminate. There are no precautions taken to keep the grain safe and free from contamination whether on the farm or at the dockside where grain ships are offloaded. Its just your Donald Duck whether your feeding contaminated grain or not IMO. i think the right good grain peter goes in the giant silo,s the rest like the barley get rolled for cattle feed do you know the reason the roll the barley ?
Guest Owen Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 Barley is rolled to make it both more digestible and palatable so that animals will eat more of it which helps them gain weight. Barley meal is the main ingredient of poultry and pig feeds. Although I have not checked this out I suspect that the pigeon pellet manufacturers use it. One of the reasons that barley is so good as a pigeon feed is because it is not very palatable and they will not eat more than they have to but they will not go hungry either. As a feed barley is amongst the best in terms of nutrition and forms the basis of most animal feed. So providing that the barley is supplemented with the things it lacks (just like all straight grains) it is an ideal way to get the pigeons fit and at racing weight.
walterboswell59 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 Barley is rolled to make it both more digestible and palatable so that animals will eat more of it which helps them gain weight. Barley meal is the main ingredient of poultry and pig feeds. Although I have not checked this out I suspect that the pigeon pellet manufacturers use it. One of the reasons that barley is so good as a pigeon feed is because it is not very palatable and they will not eat more than they have to but they will not go hungry either. As a feed barley is amongst the best in terms of nutrition and forms the basis of most animal feed. So providing that the barley is supplemented with the things it lacks (just like all straight grains) it is an ideal way to get the pigeons fit and at racing weight.correct as usual owen
Guest chad3646 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Posted March 23, 2014 that is correct owen, if they did not roll it or crush it would pass right through them whole and they would not get any benefit from it
philg50 Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Posted March 23, 2014 In i hope a weeks time when young away ,it will be Barley ,Wheat ,Maize,beans in hopper at all times ,handfull wild bird mix when i have a seat amongst them with a nut or two ,train up and lets go!!
eagle79 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 I feed my birds young bird mix no maize 4 scoops to 1 scoop barley they wont eat maize why???chuck it all over the place you could play marbles with there droppings ps always minerals grit fresh water at there disposal garlic water one day per week wont eat maize why???
geordie1234 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 I feed my birds young bird mix no maize 4 scoops to 1 scoop barley they wont eat maize why???chuck it all over the place you could play marbles with there droppings ps always minerals grit fresh water at there disposal garlic water one day per week wont eat maize why???Feeding too much
Guest bigda Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 In i hope a weeks time when young away ,it will be Barley ,Wheat ,Maize,beans in hopper at all times ,handfull wild bird mix when i have a seat amongst them with a nut or two ,train up and lets go!! forget the wild bird stuff mate, that would be scraping the barrel as everything has a life span i would say wild bird would be mainly sweepings, rat and mice droppings p ish mixed in and old seed of maybe 5 year old
gulkie Posted August 13, 2014 Report Posted August 13, 2014 COUNTRYWIDE ALLROUNDER 10 percent plus [promo] i love that bit add some beans barley and gem g10 pellets cheapest rearing season ive had and the youngsters are looking and handling great also some bozzies tonic a couple of times a week just to ward off any nasties that might be lurking about :emoticon-0138-thinking:Joe is the Bozzies for u or the doo,s.
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