Louella Lofts (Stud)

[kirky]

Well Mark Gilberts International winner was off Louella stock. (Never mind the garbage about Elspacker, he stated that in front of 150 of us)He buys in nigh every year, so can't be that bad.

louella aint gona sell mark gilbert rubbish is he would be bad for trade he and others like him will be off the best,we will get the rest take pot luck.

[just ask me]

buy young ones off a good flyer off there race team or even buy the eggs rear them yourselves forget about pigeons where generations have not seen the basket

[cemetary]

buy young ones off a good flyer off there race team or even buy the eggs rear them yourselves forget about pigeons where generations have not seen the basket

 

 

You drunk. :emoticon-0167-beer:

[BLACK W F]

buy young ones off a good flyer off there race team or even buy the eggs rear them yourselves forget about pigeons where generations have not seen the basket

common sense response pay your money take your chance

[just ask me]

You drunk. :emoticon-0167-beer:

 

 

 

i wish

[BLACK W F]

i wish

u not away to Blackpool JAM

[cemetary]

u not away to Blackpool JAM

 

Hes no allowed.

 

i wish

 

 

Well get on it then.

[BLACK W F]

Hes no allowed.

 

 

 

 

Well get on it then.

u not allowed either CEM LOL

[cemetary]

u not allowed either CEM LOL

 

 

Eye a am, cause am on holiday for a month, :emoticon-0167-beer:

[BLACK W F]

Eye a am, cause am on holiday for a month, :emoticon-0167-beer:

lucky u I got other plans for early next month holl/belg loft visits all sorted oot beats dirty old Blackpool

[just ask me]

u not away to Blackpool JAM

 

 

no mate not this year

[hotrod]

Well if you look at your own loft how many winners to birds bred as budgie says 98% sh ite rule , so louella won't be much different .

[walterboswell59]

Well if you look at your own loft how many winners to birds bred as budgie says 98% sh ite rule , so louella won't be much different .

correct stewart and you only get what you pay for m8

[just ask me]

it would be interesting to know how many rings they get each year or any stud for that matter

 

ive had birds win a race that i wouldnt give to novices no good they were correct me if im wrong but budgie 98% rule works on birds that we can count on week in week out

[walterboswell59]

it would be interesting to know how many rings they get each year or any stud for that matter

 

ive had birds win a race that i wouldnt give to novices no good they were correct me if im wrong but budgie 98% rule works on birds that we can count on week in week out

think thats part of the problem jam a stud can only garntee the bloodline is there no matter how much you pay buying birds furthere up the tree does increase your chances imo my best breeders have been dbl grandchildren of louella champions but ive had winners off the 50 pound birds to another thing is we all want a good pigeon to look like a good pigeon and when they dont look the part we are disapointed but thats not the studs fault as you say the ugly ones win to and everyones opinion of what a good bird looks or handles like is different thats what makes our sport so great no one can look at a pigeon and tell if its good or bad only the basket can tell us that the rest is guess work and opinion but everyone to there own

[dal2]

think thats part of the problem jam a stud can only garntee the bloodline is there no matter how much you pay buying birds furthere up the tree does increase your chances imo my best breeders have been dbl grandchildren of louella champions but ive had winners off the 50 pound birds to another thing is we all want a good pigeon to look like a good pigeon and when they dont look the part we are disapointed but thats not the studs fault as you say the ugly ones win to and everyones opinion of what a good bird looks or handles like is different thats what makes our sport so great no one can look at a pigeon and tell if its good or bad only the basket can tell us that the rest is guess work and opinion but everyone to there own

Never handled a winner from the distance with no back! You got to kiss a lot of frogs in this game. So perhaps you could increase your chances by not tolerating this trait?

[walterboswell59]

Never handled a winner from the distance with no back! You got to kiss a lot of frogs in this game. So perhaps you could increase your chances by not tolerating this trait?

i agree with you there dal but again thats just our opinion i have handled some very very short keeled birds to that have scored at the distance we all like the pretty ones m8

[just ask me]

think thats part of the problem jam a stud can only garntee the bloodline is there no matter how much you pay buying birds furthere up the tree does increase your chances imo my best breeders have been dbl grandchildren of louella champions but ive had winners off the 50 pound birds to another thing is we all want a good pigeon to look like a good pigeon and when they dont look the part we are disapointed but thats not the studs fault as you say the ugly ones win to and everyones opinion of what a good bird looks or handles like is different thats what makes our sport so great no one can look at a pigeon and tell if its good or bad only the basket can tell us that the rest is guess work and opinion but everyone to there own

 

 

 

buying birds from racing stock would be my first place to go walter ive bought as close as you can get to some of the best breeders in europe to day including grandchildren of the kannibal direct from van dyke and others there mostly all gone

 

jmo you are better off going to to a small team man doing well in a not so good location buy a few younsters or eggs

 

 

as regards how birds look handle etc i honestly could not care less and that the truth ive had so people tell me what the best bird was in my loft by its eye or wing or body shape etc and they have been wrong every time i would think to date that no one has gone into either my young bird loft or old bird and picked out my best racer or has anybody picked out my best breeder in my stock loft proves a point in its self i think

 

i really think we need to look a lot less at wings eyes backs and pedigre of the bird novices get confused by it all and cant understand why a grandchild off a certain wont breed winners and spend years trying

 

 

the basket is the only true finder of good birds it tells you all you need to know if the bird has the right eye right shape right wing etc it can select birds better than human

[dal2]

buying birds from racing stock would be my first place to go walter ive bought as close as you can get to some of the best breeders in europe to day including grandchildren of the kannibal direct from van dyke and others there mostly all gone

 

jmo you are better off going to to a small team man doing well in a not so good location buy a few younsters or eggs

 

 

as regards how birds look handle etc i honestly could not care less and that the truth ive had so people tell me what the best bird was in my loft by its eye or wing or body shape etc and they have been wrong every time i would think to date that no one has gone into either my young bird loft or old bird and picked out my best racer or has anybody picked out my best breeder in my stock loft proves a point in its self i think

 

i really think we need to look a lot less at wings eyes backs and pedigre of the bird novices get confused by it all and cant understand why a grandchild off a certain wont breed winners and spend years trying

 

 

the basket is the only true finder of good birds it tells you all you need to know if the bird has the right eye right shape right wing etc it can select birds better than human

 

 

Eyes! fair enuff not a proven system. But to tell novices to ignore wing, back etc is crazy.

[walterboswell59]

buying birds from racing stock would be my first place to go walter ive bought as close as you can get to some of the best breeders in europe to day including grandchildren of the kannibal direct from van dyke and others there mostly all gone

 

jmo you are better off going to to a small team man doing well in a not so good location buy a few younsters or eggs

 

 

as regards how birds look handle etc i honestly could not care less and that the truth ive had so people tell me what the best bird was in my loft by its eye or wing or body shape etc and they have been wrong every time i would think to date that no one has gone into either my young bird loft or old bird and picked out my best racer or has anybody picked out my best breeder in my stock loft proves a point in its self i think

 

i really think we need to look a lot less at wings eyes backs and pedigre of the bird novices get confused by it all and cant understand why a grandchild off a certain wont breed winners and spend years trying

 

 

the basket is the only true finder of good birds it tells you all you need to know if the bird has the right eye right shape right wing etc it can select birds better than human

bang on m8 to me if it wins its the right type

[just ask me]

Eyes! fair enuff not a proven system. But to tell novices to ignore wing, back etc is crazy.

 

 

why do people breed so many to try breed a good one why dont people go around before the first race and clear out any young ones that dont have these traits

 

there are no proven systems in pigeons only the basket it selects all that you need to know

[walterboswell59]

why do people breed so many to try breed a good one why dont people go around before the first race and clear out any young ones that dont have these traits

 

there are no proven systems in pigeons only the basket it selects all that you need to know

jam i knew a real top flyer that made up his mind to breed for type and ended up with a loft full of cracking looking and handling pigeons that could fly f k all he was so sick he packed it in your right the only thing that tells a good bird from a bad one is the basket and that goes for old hands or novice

[Delboy]

Not many decent distance pigeons don't have a good back and most of all balance. You get the odd fankle of course but flying into certain parts of Scotland they definitely need to be a certain type.

[dal2]

Not many decent distance pigeons don't have a good back and most of all balance. You get the odd fankle of course but flying into certain parts of Scotland they definitely need to be a certain type.

Everybody else seems to think I am mental Derek!!!

[dal2]

why do people breed so many to try breed a good one why dont people go around before the first race and clear out any young ones that dont have these traits

 

there are no proven systems in pigeons only the basket it selects all that you need to know

Well JAM that goes against everything ever taught to me mate. Wing is a complete window to the health and fitness of yer doo, when form is present etc. Just cant undestand why it should be ignored!!!

 

When the BASKET is your master then you must have superb knowledge or have loads of pigeons and loads of time, niether of which I have!!!