Snfc Proposals For 2014

[Henrik]

I wouldn't travel to a central marking station I'm too busy with work and family commitments ofcoarse from a selfish point of view if it was close to me I would still go but this would not be fair for the guys in other parts of the country.. I would just join the other club to get a channel race to be honest

Aye exactly the way I,m thinking, when the SNFC had the central marking it was only for the one race and there was no alternative race to go to, also it was the Gold Cup. I never went as I dont drive and had to work. Also as discrimination is illegal if the SNFC was to go down the Central marking route, they could not subsidise the North and South sections with transporting their birds to the marking without offering the same service to the guys in the East and West.

[Delboy]

For what reason do you think central marking will benefit the national and it's

Members .me personally I think we would loose members,also I agree we

Should have more races from Belgium ,fairer to all members.OMO.

 

1.security 2. all birds mixed up together, in 2001 the Gold cup was central marking and 7 section winners in the top 10 Open, it was a west wind too. Central marking is a good thing for the credibility of the SNFC, to bring back professionalism to the club. expletive remove, people off the street are marking the pigeons nowadays whereas only a few years ago it was hand picked top rated pigeon men that handled the cream of Scotlands pigeons. These men were lettered and asked to represent the National, which was a great honour to them. When we had central marking in Bathgate their were committee members working 10 hours that day, all for the benefit of the SNFC. The SNFC committee don't get paid and do their tasks for the club only because it is an honour to be on the committee.

[geordie1234]

Some people think inlands are bad for the gold cup well a central marking point for the whole of Scotland would kill it off much quicker than any inland race will..imo ofcoarse

[geordie1234]

If Security is an issue Derek then surely that can be dealt with at each individual marking station

[Delboy]

Nothing can kill off the GOLD CUP. I can almost guarantee you this, if they marked the Gold cup in London, the real distance men would still be at it, that's a fact. The same guys are at it every year and this would not stop.Im the same as everyone else,I don't want central marking,but you all missed my primary concern for the SNFC, SECURITY!!!!

[geordie1234]

Nothing can kill off the GOLD CUP. I can almost guarantee you this, if they marked the Gold cup in London, the real distance men would still be at it, that's a fact. The same guys are at it every year and this would not stop.Im the same as everyone else,I don't want central marking,but you all missed my primary concern for the SNFC, SECURITY!!!!

Do you think there is cheating going on?

[Delboy]

No, don't think so.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

No, don't think so.

 

Do you know there is cheating going on?

[geordie1234]

Birdage in 2001 when central marking was in place

 

 

2001=1564

2002=2650

2003=3168

[Delboy]

Do you know there is cheating going on?

 

What a stupid *expletive removed* question, expletive remove.

 

Birdage in 2001 when central marking was in place

 

 

2001=1564

2002=2650

2003=3168

 

Wrong again George, birdage was down because we went to Belgium for first time.

[geordie1234]

What a stupid *expletive removed* question, expletive remove.

 

 

 

Wrong again George, birdage was down because we went to Belgium for first time.

 

When was I wrong the first time lol

 

How do you know it was because it was from Belgium and not central marking?

[Delboy]

When was I wrong the first time lol

 

How do you know it was because it was from Belgium and not central marking?

 

lol, George. There was a boycott ( a lot of the Solway didn't go because they thought they didn't have enough advantage expletive remove) that's why we are back flying out of France even after a super Belgian race.

[Henrik]

lol, George. There was a boycott ( a lot of the Solway didn't go because they thought they didn't have enough advantage expletive remove) that's why we are back flying out of France even after a super Belgian race.

And a lot of people didnt go because of the central marking

[Delboy]

And a lot of people didnt go because of the central marking

 

Ye mean you didny go because of central marking. ya miserable auld fker

[Guest stb-]

Ye mean you didny go because of central marking. ya miserable auld fker

Del theres quite a few from around glasgow now try there hand at the snrpc

 

with a marking station at chryston but if you moved it to say newhouse they would nearly all stop sending , they only go because its on there door step , you would still get the die hards who would go but your average guys prob wouldnt bother .

[Delboy]

Del theres quite a few from around glasgow now try there hand at the snrpc

 

with a marking station at chryston but if you moved it to say newhouse they would nearly all stop sending , they only go because its on there door step , you would still get the die hards who would go but your average guys prob wouldnt bother .

 

Spoon fed m8, these guys you are talking about aren't committed doomen imo. Stuart Mullan travels from Port Glasgow to Newhouse to send his doos and would go to Edinburgh if needed, im sure of that.As I said before, I don't want central marking BUT I think it is a must at the moment to get the professionalism back to the SNFC. Im not daft , I do realise it wouldn't be popular but I feel its a must for the GOLD CUP at the moment.

[Henrik]

Ye mean you didny go because of central marking. ya miserable auld fker

Nothing to do with being miserable, work nights, at the moment I have to get up after around 3 hrs sleep and go to the marking station, then have to leave there around half 5 to get a bus home, feed my doo,s and get back to work for half eight, so as far as central marking goes it wouldnt suit me even if I wanted to go

[Chris Little]

Central marking was in 2000 for the Messac Gold Cup race.

 

As for the Liege race in 2001.... returns were poor

[bullcock]

I would like to give the east route a real go, because of the way the UK sits it would give a fairer measurement to all and most east route races have been successful, the biggest disasters in recent years have been mid to west race points, Newbury, Cheltenham, Bovingdon, Messiac, My idea of a race program would be,

 

Either no first inland or Huntingdon?

1 Maidstone.

2 Ypres.

3 Gold Cup Liège.

4 Longest Race either Cologne, Dusseldorf or Dortmund.

5 Brussels.

Thoughts please.

[hotrod]

Spoon fed m8, these guys you are talking about aren't committed doomen imo. Stuart Mullan travels from Port Glasgow to Newhouse to send his doos and would go to Edinburgh if needed, im sure of that.As I said before, I don't want central marking BUT I think it is a must at the moment to get the professionalism back to the SNFC. Im not daft , I do realise it wouldn't be popular but I feel its a must for the GOLD CUP at the moment.

 

 

Correct del ,even the moon if I had to lol. , I agree with the security issue del but what is really needed is the SNFC to get back to what it once was , marking stations man,d with committee members and hand picked markers , expletive remove my wee mate matt Luke took his birds through to Newhouse one race and swore he wouldn't take them there again because if the way his birds were handled , his words were I wish I was more like you ,then I would have told the guy that handled his pigeons to get fkd . This is fact , I'm sure it was the Maidstone race . The whole clubs needs a kick up the ar se .

[peter pandy]

Not wishing to go off topic however Bovingdon was a disaster not because of the race point but the weather. The shade temperature was 32c after the transporter arrived on site but real temp was 45c and heating up inside to 55c. The transporter was moved to get some shade on it underneath a tree but never cooled down.

[Delboy]

Central marking was in 2000 for the Messac Gold Cup race.

 

As for the Liege race in 2001.... returns were poor

 

Central marking in 2001 also, returns were same as any Gold cup.

 

I would like to give the east route a real go, because of the way the UK sits it would give a fairer measurement to all and most east route races have been successful, the biggest disasters in recent years have been mid to west race points, Newbury, Cheltenham, Bovingdon, Messiac, My idea of a race program would be,

 

Either no first inland or Huntingdon?

1 Maidstone.

2 Ypres.

3 Gold Cup Liège.

4 Longest Race either Cologne, Dusseldorf or Dortmund.

5 Brussels.

Thoughts please.

 

My thoughts are that you are spot on

[DJWa]

I would like to give the east route a real go, because of the way the UK sits it would give a fairer measurement to all and most east route races have been successful, the biggest disasters in recent years have been mid to west race points, Newbury, Cheltenham, Bovingdon, Messiac, My idea of a race program would be,

 

Either no first inland or Huntingdon?

1 Maidstone.

2 Ypres.

3 Gold Cup Liège.

4 Longest Race either Cologne, Dusseldorf or Dortmund.

5 Brussels.

Thoughts please.

Belgian racepoints are good for the south and west sections

but the east and especially the north east lofts would be measured

flying over water nearly all the way

 

the only fair route is inline with the middle of England into france

this way the birds have the choice of flying up the west,centre or east routes

[Delboy]

Belgian racepoints are good for the south and west sections

but the east and especially the north east lofts would be measured

flying over water nearly all the way

 

the only fair route is inline with the middle of England into france

this way the birds have the choice of flying up the west,centre or east routes

 

 

lol cracker, we had 1 Belgian Gold cup, winner in Carnoustie

[DJWa]

lol cracker

why is that Derek

would your birds not fly up the west and not dogleg from the east