Vet Shocker

[ForestForever74]

I would like peoples thoughts and opinions on this one please.

 

Our hen that was 7th Sec E Yb National last year broke her leg. We booked an appointment with the Vet to see if we can get it fixed. The consultation cost £15 and the Vet went

on to say that this was not his expertise and that we should book an appointment with another Vet in the practice through his receptionist again at a cost of £15. Once we refused

and said that we had booked the appointment with him and that we stated it was for a racing pigeon beforehand that we would not be seeking any other advice other than his. He

has quoted us £200/£300 for fixing the birds leg and pointed out that it was a very nice thing for us to do. He also said he would give us painkillers for the bird but she might

be on them for the rest of her life and if indeed we proceeded with getting her leg fixed there is a chance she might lose it.

 

Cheers

 

Andy

[Delboy]

I would like peoples thoughts and opinions on this one please.

 

Our hen that was 7th Sec E Yb National last year broke her leg. We booked an appointment with the Vet to see if we can get it fixed. The consultation cost £15 and the Vet went

on to say that this was not his expertise and that we should book an appointment with another Vet in the practice through his receptionist again at a cost of £15. Once we refused

and said that we had booked the appointment with him and that we stated it was for a racing pigeon beforehand that we would not be seeking any other advice other than his. He

has quoted us £200/£300 for fixing the birds leg and pointed out that it was a very nice thing for us to do. He also said he would give us painkillers for the bird but she might

be on them for the rest of her life and if indeed we proceeded with getting her leg fixed there is a chance she might lose it.

 

Cheers

 

Andy

Hes a fe kin crank m8, he knows fk all about pigeons and tell him that.Put the bird in a box full of shavings and feed and water.It will heal itself.If its a really bad break, put it in harness and splint leg, piece of pi ss .

[JohnQuinn]

I would like peoples thoughts and opinions on this one please.

 

Our hen that was 7th Sec E Yb National last year broke her leg. We booked an appointment with the Vet to see if we can get it fixed. The consultation cost £15 and the Vet went

on to say that this was not his expertise and that we should book an appointment with another Vet in the practice through his receptionist again at a cost of £15. Once we refused

and said that we had booked the appointment with him and that we stated it was for a racing pigeon beforehand that we would not be seeking any other advice other than his. He

has quoted us £200/£300 for fixing the birds leg and pointed out that it was a very nice thing for us to do. He also said he would give us painkillers for the bird but she might

be on them for the rest of her life and if indeed we proceeded with getting her leg fixed there is a chance she might lose it.

 

Cheers

 

Andy

 

Never read so much rubbish, he's trying to screw you, in fact both of them are. Put the doo in a nest box with easy access to food and water and it will come round ok in a few weeks time. I posted on here just before the Yb season started that i had one with a badly broken leg and ripped open the full length of its breast. I put 14 stitches in to close the wound then put him in a neat box to rest up. He is now back in amongst the others and i'd pay any man £100 if he could pick it out from the others.

Best advice i can give you is stay well clear of vets as there are no specialist Avian vets around so you are only getting their best guess and a big bill to fatten their wallets. A bit like dealing with lawyers!!!

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

Hes a fe kin crank m8, he knows fk all about pigeons and tell him that.Put the bird in a box full of shavings and feed and water.It will heal itself.If its a really bad break, put it in harness and splint leg, piece of pi ss .

Ditto to above and another method is to suspend bird in a stocking in a box so can get to food / water

[peter2010]

Did he have a mask on when he was telling you m8

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Ditto to above and another method is to suspend bird in a stocking in a box so can get to food / water

we had to do that on one occasion as hen broke both her legs which we fixed with matchsticks and surgical tape,ten days later she was coming out the stocking so we put her in a cat basket full of shavings and after a couple of days she was back in the loft and the year after she went on to race again

[maverick]

Had one this year both legs broken and badly smashed up around keel put in a basket will plenty shavings as said before fresh food and water in basket beside it 2 weeks later he was back in loft another week and he was out flying with the rest

 

They are a lot tougher than you think this bird was hurt from a toss and landed on my neighbours roof wings spread out I thought he was dead sea gulls and magpies were having a go at him the magpie was pulling him by the wing down the roof he spent the night out on the roof but in the morning he was spread out on the landing board were I caught him I thought it would be better to cull him for his sake but wife would not let me and he is now back to normal and you would not know he was hurt

[buster151]

I took a bird to vet years ago cost me 30pounds a lot at that time treatment never did anything so went back vet advised to put to sleep cost was a further 30 pounds I said you charged me the same amount to make it better now same to kill it i dont think so i said any way he put it down free

 

there is some pigeon harnesses on ebay

[Guest IB]

It's an avian vet you need for pigeons, yours wasn't as he said the pigeon was outside his expertise. Vets don't come cheap, and IMO they do have a place when the job is outwith your own capability or knowledge, and a 'simple' broken leg should be within most fancier's capability - just look at the previous responses. After treatment you need to keep the bird in a spare nest box, as others will bully it if left loose amongst them. The bird will keep the foot off the floor for 7-10 days then gradually put weight (and limp) on it over the following 7-10 days, improving daily, after which it can be let into the section with the other birds.

[R.A.M.C.63]

And they say pigeon fanciers dont care, above posts say different, well done boys,

i had stock bird years ago damaged ring leg didnt wont lose it, i cut leg off above ring,

bird only passed on this year aged 14, he still went out flying, only down side was

he couldn,t jump he,s hen kept falling off, as said they are hardy animals,

and often find when repaired they lot more trusting, tamer.

and tottally agree Vets just over priced conmen, Atb

[hawked again]

Follow all the instructions above but if the break is in the bottom part of the leg wrap round some thin cardboard and hold it closed with tape. If it's the ring leg, use the ring to hold the cardboard in place, simples! Good to hear so many people care. Bird should be sorted between 7 and 10 days.

 

Fergie from Nairn once had a doo who's leg was hanging on only by a tendon and a bit skin. I thought he would have cut it off. No, he splinted it and saved the leg, I wouldn't have believed it if I had not seen it myself.

 

Jim.

[walterboswell59]

simpless way to mend a broken leg is to cut some kitchen roll into a 1 inch strip then cover the strip with the white of an egg and rap it around the break it sets hard in minutes then just cut it off in 10 days works a treat to remove just soak in warm water

[hawked again]

simpless way to mend a broken leg is to cut some kitchen roll into a 1 inch strip then cover the strip with the white of an egg and rap it around the break it sets hard in minutes then just cut it off in 10 days works a treat to remove just soak in warm water

 

Thanks for that Walter, sounds even easier than cardboard and tape.

 

Jim.

[gulkie]

There is not any difference between a human break and a bird the leg has to be set and

Splints fitted match sticks and tinfoil strips are perfect ,it must be set or the leg will heal in the

Direction it is lying don't be afraid to try this yourself it's easier than you think and you will

Will end up with a better job than most vet can achieve ,or there is always someone in ur

Club that can do it for you .like Walters way as we'll.

[Guest IB]

I should mention that there is a school of thought [Armand Sheer the Belgian vet that won a National) that says don't splint a simple break, as the bird will hold the foot off the floor and the broken ends will be naturally held together at the correct tension and heal properly. (Just put the bird in a nest box as before.)

 

I've watched this healing in the past and noticed a slight swelling develops on the leg all the way round the site of the break, like a mini water wing round a child's arm, and I suppose splints etc could cause the bird problems with that. The swelling goes down as the break heals.

[andyyy]

We had one break her leg before the yb bird season advice from old club mates was to get rid of her, however she's out of a good cock so she was left in a nest box with easy bed on the floor, food and water 24/7 after a few weeks, she was back in the yb loft and she managed 7 out of 8 races. Just goes to show that a bit of time works just fine hope your bird makes a full recovery

[Fly_caster]

simpless way to mend a broken leg is to cut some kitchen roll into a 1 inch strip then cover the strip with the white of an egg and rap it around the break it sets hard in minutes then just cut it off in 10 days works a treat to remove just soak in warm water

 

 

 

Class Tip Walter - thank you for that - will use !

 

Cheers,

 

Steve

[walterboswell59]

There is not any difference between a human break and a bird the leg has to be set and

Splints fitted match sticks and tinsel are perfect ,it must be set or the leg will heal in the

Direction it is lying don't be afraid to try this yourself it's easier than you think and you will

Will end up with a better job than most vet can achieve ,or there is always someone in ur

Club that can do it for you .like Walters way as we'll.

agree gulkie some i did not splint set at an angle and the birds leg was twisted or a big lump where the bone fused on top of bone best to splint or my way even easyer sets like a stookie the english boys will not know what that is lol

[walterboswell59]

Never read so much rubbish, he's trying to screw you, in fact both of them are. Put the doo in a nest box with easy access to food and water and it will come round ok in a few weeks time. I posted on here just before the Yb season started that i had one with a badly broken leg and ripped open the full length of its breast. I put 14 stitches in to close the wound then put him in a neat box to rest up. He is now back in amongst the others and i'd pay any man £100 if he could pick it out from the others.

Best advice i can give you is stay well clear of vets as there are no specialist Avian vets around so you are only getting their best guess and a big bill to fatten their wallets. A bit like dealing with lawyers!!!

you said it m8 cranks and when they say avian they mean chicken lol

[walterboswell59]

one of my racing hens broke her keel bone last year it set with a piece of bone sticking out and the skin grew over it but every egg she sat on broke so to day i put her in side a sock and cut her open chipped the piece of bone off sowed her up and gave her some antibiotic she was out flying an hour later no problem hope it will solve the broken eggs

[Guest Owen]

I have dealt with Vets for most of my adult life and most of them are useless. It gets even worse when you ask them to deal with a pigeon because most do not have the knowledge to deal with a pigeon. In any case most of them are not the caring people portrayed on the Tele and they really can't be bothered. I wouldn't mind betting that the Vet you saw really couldn't be bothered so he hit the price right up to get rid of you. We have had dogs die from bad Vets and sheep messed up by Vets not to mention a horse blinded by a Vet putting her down on a patch of freshly cut nettles which caused a nettle stump to injure the eye when it was open but the mare was unconscious. There must be some good ones out there but I am sure that they are few and far between.

The one Vet I have respect for is David Parsons from Wincanton because he knows his job and I have found him marvellous.

I decided many years ago that I had to learn about animal and bird health problems and injuries so that I could handle situations myself or at least properly supervise any Vet I went to. I have attended courses read books and observed what Vets have done until I can do most things.

[blaz]

one of my racing hens broke her keel bone last year it set with a piece of bone sticking out and the skin grew over it but every egg she sat on broke so to day i put her in side a sock and cut her open chipped the piece of bone off sowed her up and gave her some antibiotic she was out flying an hour later no problem hope it will solve the broken eggs

 

i don,t fancy getting cut open and a bone chipped away. that was crul and painful for that hen.just so she can sit eggs . doing that was wrong without anything for the pain .

[Guest TAMMY_1]

i don,t fancy getting cut open and a bone chipped away. that was cruel and painful for that hen.just so she can sit eggs . doing that was wrong without anything for the pain .

have to agree with you on that comment

[Roland]

Have to agree very much with Owen.

 

Not saying that he would agree at all with my following post though so wish to make that clear first off.

 

However I believe many - Like I used to,for broken legs. Tampax made great hammocks etc. I have even stuck them together at the very top of the leg with sellotape with great results - which took a pains takenly time soaking off in warm soapy water, with great results.

But I have since leant that if badly bruised, one needs only to set in place, if needs be, and leave in a old tight or a own made hammock. The swelling holds the leg into place and they heal with hardly a blip. Think about it.

Now of course we relate to humans etc. and what the quack will or won't do, and WE have to have our bones re - set sometimes ... but nowhere near always.

[Roland]

I get scorned looks when I say I am also a great believer in Salt! Yes I use Soudo Creme too. But invariably I douse a cut, grace or gash with salt first of. I believe that after a few seconds the sting has gone and then it will dry and heal good, besides purifying it and salt is a great purative. If skin of breast is scraped of real bad, I will then spread Soudo Creme often after and just leave, but keep an eye on it. May then use soudo creme as if and when i feel it's needed.

Pigeons are renouned hardy creatures, and surely a little moment of a sting / discomfort is far better than leaving alone etc..