just ask me Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 thread should be split now nope John if i had of seen it earlier i would have done it before hope the thread reads some way right there 1 or 2 posts still relevant to the last topic but to keep this thread reading someway right probably best left here with people quoting each other etc the transferd posts are now here http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/topic/70167-the-6-feds-idea-on-snfcsnrpc-thread/ if there any more to be moved around let me know
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Your having a laugh John , Morris bros? Yes top flyers through here but I'm sure they would be saying the same as me , expletive remove out of the last 5 gold cup races they have timed in 1 race , they have a long way to go to catch up some others in the west likewise myself , I could name prob 20/30 in front of robert and David , and I'm not rubbishing them one bit , good guys and work hard for their results , some are top class no doubt about it but consistency is what you look for . ImhoStu I can't think of 20/30 good national guys in the west how many times has the snfc been won into the west in the last 20 years their all on the same lorry and heading home when you think two of the biggest Feds are over here its poor even when the weather suits this sides found wanting all this mince about letting a paper bag go in France and it'll end up up the east coast is a get out clause imo different with the ybn but at 500 plus it's just gid doos as there's no batches piling up the east coast just loners. I find it strange when people clamber for doos at sales that's from lofts that's getting on the result into the west and snub the doos that's actually winning due to where they stay personally I'd rather have them off the winners as their the best the results prove it and if you fill your loft way doos that just make the result that's what you'll only breed its just a thought and maybe us over here just need to raise our game any thoughts ?
hotrod Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Stu I can't think of 20/30 good national guys in the west how many times has the snfc been won into the west in the last 20 years their all on the same lorry and heading home when you think two of the biggest Feds are over here its poor even when the weather suits this sides found wanting all this mince about letting a paper bag go in France and it'll end up up the east coast is a get out clause imo different with the ybn but at 500 plus it's just gid doos as there's no batches piling up the east coast just loners. I find it strange when people clamber for doos at sales that's from lofts that's getting on the result into the west and snub the doos that's actually winning due to where they stay personally I'd rather have them off the winners as their the best the results prove it and if you fill your loft way doos that just make the result that's what you'll only breed its just a thought and maybe us over here just need to raise our game any thoughts ?Can't disagree pal about raising our game , I did a few years back worked my socks off for a few years it the results I deserved , but nice then I've had family problems ,which took more of my time so, not been working as hard as I should be , still I get in the results ,but with a bit of extra effort I know I can get back up there. Oh and I've no helpers I do it myself apart from my good lady letting my hens out around 2pm every day , it's much much easier when two or more are working them , even better when one doesn't work . I've said many a time that there are good fliers in our end of the world , if they just believed in their selves .
alec guinness Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Stu I can't think of 20/30 good national guys in the west how many times has the snfc been won into the west in the last 20 years their all on the same lorry and heading home when you think two of the biggest Feds are over here its poor even when the weather suits this sides found wanting all this mince about letting a paper bag go in France and it'll end up up the east coast is a get out clause imo different with the ybn but at 500 plus it's just gid doos as there's no batches piling up the east coast just loners. I find it strange when people clamber for doos at sales that's from lofts that's getting on the result into the west and snub the doos that's actually winning due to where they stay personally I'd rather have them off the winners as their the best the results prove it and if you fill your loft way doos that just make the result that's what you'll only breed its just a thought and maybe us over here just need to raise our game any thoughts ? You must be new to the nationals m8 with the above post and yes I do no you won the inland national and very well done to,I could name 20/30 names of very good national flyers from the west no probs,ps sorry for jumping on hotrods post.
hotrod Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 You must be new to the nationals m8 with the above post and yes I do no you won the inland national and very well done to,I could name 20/30 names of very good national flyers from the west no probs,ps sorry for jumping on hotrods post. You know me John I'm fine getting jumped on lol. I could name 20/30 as well .
bullcock Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Your having a laugh John , Morris bros? Yes top flyers through here but I'm sure they would be saying the same as me , expletive remove out of the last 5 gold cup races they have timed in 1 race , they have a long way to go to catch up some others in the west likewise myself , I could name prob 20/30 in front of robert and David , and I'm not rubbishing them one bit , good guys and work hard for their results , some are top class no doubt about it but consistency is what you look for . ImhoHi Stuart and John whoever, I have to agree with you Stuart on this one I'm pleased and flattered that some people are noticing our results flying into a hard location, but we have a long way to go to be on this top list, we need more consistency in timing into the big races, hopefully one day.
We man Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 You must be new to the nationals m8 with the above post and yes I do no you won the inland national and very well done to,I could name 20/30 names of very good national flyers from the west no probs,ps sorry for jumping on hotrods post. Agree,And in my and plenty others opinion jj hood are right up there and not a one trick pony.
hotrod Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Hi Stuart and John whoever, I have to agree with you Stuart on this one I'm pleased and flattered that some people are noticing our results flying into a hard location, but we have a long way to go to be on this top list, we need more consistency in timing into the big races, hopefully one day.Hi pal there was no disrespect ment ,as I'm as honest as the day is long , but we all have a it to go to get up there with the best , yes flattered your name is mentioned , and your results are getting noticed , you only get out what you put in . And you and robert come into that category , and hopefully the next few years eh?
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Agree,And in my and plenty others opinion jj hood are right up there and not a one trick pony.Without a doubt but am sure lots would like to swap their results for that one trick
We man Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Stu I can't think of 20/30 good national guys in the west how many times has the snfc been won into the west in the last 20 years their all on the same lorry and heading home when you think two of the biggest Feds are over here its poor even when the weather suits this sides found wanting all this mince about letting a paper bag go in France and it'll end up up the east coast is a get out clause imo different with the ybn but at 500 plus it's just gid doos as there's no batches piling up the east coast just loners. I find it strange when people clamber for doos at sales that's from lofts that's getting on the result into the west and snub the doos that's actually winning due to where they stay personally I'd rather have them off the winners as their the best the results prove it and if you fill your loft way doos that just make the result that's what you'll only breed its just a thought and maybe us over here just need to raise our game any thoughts ?Rubbish,and total disrespect to all the well respected fanciers in the West. IMO.
bibendium Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Without a doubt but am sure lots would like to swap their results for that one trick Ricky, anyone who knows and flys against you know your no one trick pony.
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 You must be new to the nationals m8 with the above post and yes I do no you won the inland national and very well done to,I could name 20/30 names of very good national flyers from the west no probs,ps sorry for jumping on hotrods post. Am relatively new 23 yrs in the game but not the nationals I personally would class the likes of hodgeson,virtue,Elliot ,bosworth etc etc guys that's had multiple national wins that's good flyers and with the amount of lofts this side of the country you would think there would be more guys like the afore mentioned we can't keep blaming location and prevailing winds that's my point am not trying to take anything away from anyone it's just something that puzzles me that's all
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Rubbish,and total disrespect to all the well respected fanciers in the West. IMO.No disrespect from here so It's a valid point up for discussion so wynd yir neck in !!
hotrod Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Forgot one of the very best in the west with only a small loft , that of davie Donaldson of glassford, I'm sure if davie stayed in the east he would have a national win or two under his belt .
ALF Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Forgot one of the very best in the west with only a small loft , that of davie Donaldson of glassford, I'm sure if davie stayed in the east he would have a national win or two under his belt .I was wondering how long it would take someone to mention him
hotrod Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 I was wondering how long it would take someone to mention him He should be in my top 5 alan I forgot all about davie when I posted . What one comes out now ? Fk it top 6 lol.
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Forgot one of the very best in the west with only a small loft , that of davie Donaldson of glassford, I'm sure if davie stayed in the east he would have a national win or two under his belt .Without a doubt a top doo man but do you not think that's disrespectful to the guys on the east saying if this guy or that guy moved over there they would win its only ifs and buts Stuart the guys over here need to step up a gear as you said earlier most are beaten before they go far too much negativity over here imo
hotrod Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 It's been proved with especially the young bird national Ricky , the last few years , billy bills and moves to ayemouth area and wins it twice in two years , not just winning it dominating it , billy wasn't the best flyer up here he was a good flyer but not one of the top guys , and I never disrespect any pigeon or pigeon man , it's hard getting winners , and even harder to time in from the Chanel . If you look back to the guy in stewarton. Stuart divit. 2nd open and without doubt the best pigeon in the race . Same as jock alstons 2nd open this year as far as I'm concerned tat was the best pigeon in that race ,but that is just my opinion .there are lots of pigeons that don't win ,I look at we're the are flying into and the conditions on the day to determine the best birds .
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 It's been proved with especially the young bird national Ricky , the last few years , billy bills and moves to ayemouth area and wins it twice in two years , not just winning it dominating it , billy wasn't the best flyer up here he was a good flyer but not one of the top guys , and I never disrespect any pigeon or pigeon man , it's hard getting winners , and even harder to time in from the Chanel . If you look back to the guy in stewarton. Stuart divit. 2nd open and without doubt the best pigeon in the race . Same as jock alstons 2nd open this year as far as I'm concerned tat was the best pigeon in that race ,but that is just my opinion .there are lots of pigeons that don't win ,I look at we're the are flying into and the conditions on the day to determine the best birds .I know what your saying Stuart 100 per cent I just feel at times for the winners as they seem to be over looked at times because of their location and the doo that's 3rd or 10th are the heroes anyway let's hope for west domination in the coming seasons
geordie1234 Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Far too many good doo men to mention I would not like to miss anyone out There are some doo men who are top class but there pigeons also win elsewhere too which for me enhances the there name..shows top class racing skills but also top class breeding and selecting skills
VMS Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Stu I can't think of 20/30 good national guys in the west how many times has the snfc been won into the west in the last 20 years their all on the same lorry and heading home when you think two of the biggest Feds are over here its poor even when the weather suits this sides found wanting all this mince about letting a paper bag go in France and it'll end up up the east coast is a get out clause imo different with the ybn but at 500 plus it's just gid doos as there's no batches piling up the east coast just loners. I find it strange when people clamber for doos at sales that's from lofts that's getting on the result into the west and snub the doos that's actually winning due to where they stay personally I'd rather have them off the winners as their the best the results prove it and if you fill your loft way doos that just make the result that's what you'll only breed its just a thought and maybe us over here just need to raise our game any thoughts ?Could not disagree more,their are many top class long distance fanciers in section E and F not to have won a National and to suggest they might have to raise their game to achieve this is just plain disrespectful to them
moscow master Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Could not disagree more,their are many top class long distance fanciers in section E and F not to have won a National and to suggest they might have to raise their game to achieve this is just plain disrespectful to themNot a bit of disrespect in my body that's a fact but the disrespect the east get from over here is plain to see and personally I think it's shocking but that's the green eyed monster for you
yeboah Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 To Me there are many many Top Fanciers in all locations ,My top men are the unsung heroes that keep our clubs and federations running smoothly each and every Year and put in untold hours of graft and in many circumstances get only grief for their efforts ,If you are one of those Stand Proud .
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