Stockbirds And Black Minerals.

[ghostrider]

I dont know about yours,

im sure if i put a mug full in a pot they would demolish the lot

its a feeding frenzy

also seen on a dvd a good belgian flyer puts a pot of salt in for his birds,

havn't tried that yet,he goes on to say,he got that tip from Ad Schaerlaeckens.

 

atb

[demolition man]

I dont know about yours,

im sure if i put a mug full in a pot they would demolish the lot

its a feeding frenzy

also seen on a dvd a good belgian flyer puts a pot of salt in for his birds,

havn't tried that yet,he goes on to say,he got that tip from Ad Schaerlaeckens.

 

atb

 

 

Hi mate pigeons will eat salt for fun. like us (humans that is) salt is not good in largre amounts

[Guest maricelbill]

never found any use for it, Stuart. If they weren't getting what they need from the pink minerals they would go to the field. as for demolishing it, they obviously like the taste.

all in all I can't say it's ever been a concern. and that includes salt. B'

[demolition man]

never found any use for it, Stuart. If they weren't getting what they need from the pink minerals they would go to the field. as for demolishing it, they obviously like the taste.

all in all I can't say it's ever been a concern. and that includes salt. B'

 

 

Bill

 

I aways put PICKSTONE, GRIT & BLACK MINRELS before the birds, One reason for this is because i don't want my birds fielding. And for prisner stock the above 3 are a must when feeding young in my eyes. Salt well i see no value in that what so ever, any salt needed they would get from there diat:: :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[greenlands]

A local fancier now sadly passed away asked me to have a look at his birds has he had a problem,most were off their legs.I asked had he done anything different or had he seen any rats about etc.Answer.He'd filled a few pot with black mineral's and the birds ate the lot.Yes they'll devour it madly especially when feeding young.

[demolition man]

A local fancier now sadly passed away asked me to have a look at his birds has he had a problem,most were off their legs.I asked had he done anything different or had he seen any rats about etc.Answer.He'd filled a few pot with black mineral's and the birds ate the lot.Yes they'll devour it madly especially when feeding young.

 

 

Are you saying that black minrels caused pigeons to off there legs? I can't see that! minrels before birds on a regular bases will not cause birds to go off there legs mine have it all the time with no side affects.

[Guest Dorset-lad]

Ive found with mine, if i put a pot of pink and black in they will eat the pink more when not breeding, but once young are in the nest they turn more to the black, I noticed it last year and they are doing the same now.

 

Regards Brian

[greenlands]

Are you saying that black minrels caused pigeons to off there legs? I can't see that! minrels before birds on a regular bases will not cause birds to go off there legs mine have it all the time with no side affects.

If you have minerals in front of them all the time they are used to them,same as feeding birds by hopper they never appear to have food on their crops,put the minerals in front of the birds for the first time while feeding young and you'll have a different result.

[alex young]

I dont know about yours,

im sure if i put a mug full in a pot they would demolish the lot

its a feeding frenzy

also seen on a dvd a good belgian flyer puts a pot of salt in for his birds,

havn't tried that yet,he goes on to say,he got that tip from Ad Schaerlaeckens.

 

atb

Bert Braspenning always has a pot of salt in front of his birds,if you are giving black mins/salt etc. on a regular basis the bird should not gorge themselves on them.atb.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Ive found with mine, if i put a pot of pink and black in they will eat the pink more when not breeding, but once young are in the nest they turn more to the black, I noticed it last year and they are doing the same now.

 

Regards Brian

Spot on, once the young in nest are apprx 8 days old they have to have kilpatricks black minerals, might be for the iodine that this product has. Have found that if they don't get it then they tend to overdose on other minerals and combi Mixes such as matrix and All in one of versele laga, This requirement the pigeons have for the black minerals subsides once they get to 16-18 days of age.

[demolition man]

If you have minerals in front of them all the time they are used to them,same as feeding birds by hopper they never appear to have food on their crops,put the minerals in front of the birds for the first time while feeding young and you'll have a different result.

 

 

So are you saying that black mineral cause the birds to fall off there feet if gorged? this is not a critisiam just interested

[ghostrider]

Bert Braspenning always has a pot of salt in front of his birds,if you are giving black mins/salt etc. on a regular basis the bird should not gorge themselves on them.atb.

 

 

There is a pot of black mineral always in the corridor,

when i clean out the birds make a beeline out there boxes,into the corridor,

and its a frantic race to that pot.morning/night

in each compartment/s..there's 3 pots for redstone/pink min/grit.

they want for nothing.

i went around a friend of mines lofts,the other week,

at midday he gives each pair..ie feeding young half a teaspoon of matrix

thats all saffled up a thrice.

i reckon they need that extra boost,same thing happened last year,i recall

none of mine went off there legs tho..thank god

 

thanks for the replies

[Tony C]

Kilpatrick's Iodised Minerals

 

Contains

 

* charcoal

* iron

* calcium

* manganese

* phosphorous

* sulphur

* iodine

* magnesium

* chlorine

* salt.

[greenlands]

So are you saying that black mineral cause the birds to fall off there feet if gorged? this is not a critisiam just interested

Yes,surely the minerals contain a large amount of salts and if taken in excess I think they would knock the birds off their legs .JMO.

I have no proof of this only an observation.

That's if they gorge themselves.

[soupie]

my birds would have black mineral in front of them nearly all the time and never empty the pot.

 

but since the yb's have been about 10 days old they are eating a lot more of it.

 

i've noticed this in previous years too.

 

The birds probably know more than i do about what they require when feeding ybs, so i just leave them to it.

 

soupie

[demolition man]

Yes,surely the minerals contain a large amount of salts and if taken in excess I think they would knock the birds off their legs .JMO.

I have no proof of this only an observation.

That's if they gorge themselves.

 

 

Yep fair point

[ghostrider]

after yesterdays glut on the black mineral

this morning you guessed it,they were AFTER MORE

none had gone off their legs tho.atb

[Guest maricelbill]

Bill

 

I aways put PICKSTONE, GRIT & BLACK MINRELS before the birds, One reason for this is because i don't want my birds fielding. And for prisner stock the above 3 are a must when feeding young in my eyes. Salt well i see no value in that what so ever, any salt needed they would get from there diat:: :emoticon-0140-rofl:

 

 

 

 

 

they had everything bar the black minerals and I never had a youngster go off his legs. i always found the pink sufficient. in fact I don't recall anyone around here uses it. if the birds wanted for anything they would go to the field or the river. The fields are directly behind the house and the river 100 yards away. take away the pink mineral and then they will field.

 

a mate of mind downs pints in two gulps. it doesn't mean it's good for him.

[Tony C]

If I hold back on black minerals whilst the birds are rearing they'll go visit the chimney pots so would say its not the salt they're after.

[jake12]

With regards to black mins, a few years ago I noticed most of my 7 -14 old y/bs nest boxes were sloppy. The stock birds could not get enough black mins and also the drinkers had to be constantly refilled. I mentioned this to a doctor friend and he told me to mix black and pink together. In a few days the stock loft was back to normal. He told me that because of the amount of salt in black mins (Normally the cheaper ones,the birds take them when feeding and the salt increases their thirst so they pump the y/bs with more water that feed. For years now I have mixed the minerals and have never had that problem again. With pick stones my stock birds have them all the time until 7 - 14 old y/bs then they are given no more than one block a day. Hope this helps and p.s.The black mins were not branded e.g. Gerdon or kilpatrick.

Allan :emoticon-0167-beer:

[cemetary]

Never give the stock birds black minerals until they start feeding ybs,

[Guest stb-]

I poke a wee hole in the kirkpatrick black mineral bag and hang it on wall just slightly of the floor the birds just peck at it when they need it and dont overdose , to me its a big part of rearing good young uns

salt and iodine content

[Guest maricelbill]

If I hold back on black minerals whilst the birds are rearing they'll go visit the chimney pots so would say its not the salt they're after.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THE CHIMNEY POTS?

 

That's another new one again. i can only go one my own experience and never used it.

[ALF]

old birds will look for more black minerals when the yb's are 8-12 days old so watch what you are doing re feeding/giving them black minerals but 1 thing i will say is i would'nt be without them when feeding yb's and if you doubt what i am saying feed 1 section without them and the other with them and see the difference in them and make yer own mind up :emoticon-0167-beer:

[steff30]

old birds will look for more black minerals when the yb's are 8-12 days old so watch what you are doing re feeding/giving them black minerals but 1 thing i will say is i would'nt be without them when feeding yb's and if you doubt what i am saying feed 1 section without them and the other with them and see the difference in them and make yer own mind up :emoticon-0167-beer:

Yer bang on Alan, if you want to breed strong robust youngsters always provide black minerals for the parents. ^_^ ^_^