Scottish One Loft Race , Discussion Thread,

[Pigeon Thos]

http://www.scottishoneloftrace.co.uk/

Where about on the web site is the training results? I see it now - you have to refresh the page.

[Bobby4]

Where about on the web site is the training results that show what birds are competing?

 

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[THE FIFER]

good,getting somewhere now, all the best .

[Williedoo]

Does anyone know if the plain SU rings that are on the training result but not on the One Loft ring list,are they Billys own pigeons.

[bigbill]

Does anyone know if the plain SU rings that are on the training result but not on the One Loft ring list,are they Billys own pigeons.

billy rings are for the join our sports birds,

[pigeon359]

And you all wondered why the full list of birds left wasn’t put up earlier? Probably too embarrassed I would guess! Take off the 38 JOSC birds which are on the list that Billy donated and you will be left with 188 birds out of the original 458 birds entered. That’s 270 birds lost that cant even last training up to 50 miles and bred from fanciers best birds.

How many did he donate, 100, 200? Then the losses are even worse than the first figures if there are only 38 of these left too. This whole thing has been a farce from start to finish and he knows that. Can you imagine the flack that would have occurred if he had put the list up earlier when birds were vanishing in abundance from 15, 20 mile stages? All of that on top of everything else would have been quite an embarrassment I reckon.

As far as I am concerned I have literally thrown away £400 on 4 birds entered and will never be part of this sham again. I feel for the JSL Services lads who entered 12 birds and not one even made it past the training stage! We all expect to lose a bird here and there but WOW……….

No one can say that 270 birds just weren’t up to the job flying UP to 50 mile when they are supposedly bred from the best of the best! Not only has Billy messed this whole thing up for himself but it has put a damper on anyone else in the future even attempting to organise a OLR. He cant stop birds going awol and I am not saying the losses are his fault entirely as we all know the hazards that lie ahead of our birds even in training but this on top of everything else has finished OLR as far as I am concerned.

Will there be any birds left at all by the time the final race comes? Not many I would guess and here was all the neighbours at Lamberton worrying about a 1000 cars invading their peacefull village when you will be lucky if there is even a handful!

[vone]

Yip a disgrace not to be advising anyone. I'm astonished not to have any left at this stage. I'll be contacting him to see what he intends doing. 12 paid for in advance and delivered in perfect health on the last day along with another 10 young birds. Somthing went wrong that we have not been advised about.

 

Couldn't fkn believe it when I checked the web site the day, a looked 4 times thinking a was on the wrong site LoL

 

Anyway all the best to the birds. Individuals and syndicates that have survived.

 

John Lindsay

JSL Syndicate

[Guest stb-]

see the macs only 5 left from 15

 

bASICS SYNDICATE 4 from 14 su13 f 3882 and 3383

 

su 13 p 1466 su 13 l 2120 all the best to whats left but its a poor show

 

with 10 gone and not even had a race

[sapper756]

see the macs only 5 left from 15

 

bASICS SYNDICATE 4 from 14 su13 f 3882 and 3383

 

su 13 p 1466 su 13 l 2120 all the best to whats left but its a poor show

 

with 10 gone and not even had a race

 

I thought Basics Syndicate still had 8 birds left

 

Birds from pigeon basics syndicate on result left in loft

5th SU 13 3363 15-53-46

7th SU 13 AB 2707 15-53-48

13th SU 13 F 4263 15-53-49

38TH SU 13 F 3882 15-53-58

71st SU 13 P 1565 15-54-10

103rd SU 13 AF 952 15-54-29

119th SU 13 P 1466 15-54-46

: 188th SU 13 L 2120 16-17-55

[andy]

see the macs only 5 left from 15

 

bASICS SYNDICATE 4 from 14 su13 f 3882 and 3383

 

su 13 p 1466 su 13 l 2120 all the best to whats left but its a poor show

 

with 10 gone and not even had a race

SU13p 1565 still there too PB Syndicate

[Delboy]

We hivnae had a race yet, wheres the doos went?

[Ian McKay]

We hivnae had a race yet, wheres the doos went?

 

 

Think everyone's speechless :emoticon-0179-headbang: Derek

[eastcoaster]

I never joined it but think the least the guy could do is come on here and explain,

[geordie1234]

I was going to join and for other reasons couldn't but I wish all the pb members in the syndicate all the best.

 

I really stuck up for this olr at first when ppl were pointing out issues but this is nothing short of scandalous. ...

[Ian McKay]

From the Web Site:30 July 2013 - Hi all the birds are now all electronically tagged and there is a list of all the birds remaining under LOFT LIST

Now that the birds are all ets tagged we had our first trainiing toss liberated at Alnwick 37 miles. The training result can

be found under TRAINING RESULT. I would like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding as I realise

it took longer than anticipated to get the birds tagged and the info onto the web. Cheers Billy

 

 

 

Pigeon Basics syndicate birds were delivered on the last day which gave him 17 weeks to Tag the birds Which is less than 4 a day :emoticon-0179-headbang:

[cemetary]

I have followed the one loft race thread from the start on pigeon basics, I have read all what's being put up by people, except the guy who is actually running the show, I think more information should have been put up long ago. and before any one try's to have a go at me, its only my IMO, so back off.

 

Me, am glad after all the hassle, I didn't enter my hard earned cash into it.

 

But the best owe luck to who is left, come on the FORUM GUYS.

[Ian McKay]

I have followed the one loft race thread from the start on pigeon basics, I have read all what's being put up by people, except the guy who is actually running the show, I think more information should have been put up long ago. and before any one try's to have a go at me, its only my IMO, so back off.

 

Me, am glad after all the hassle, I didn't enter my hard earned cash into it.

 

But the best owe luck to who is left, come on the FORUM GUYS.

 

 

He has a Web Site Dougie but post up very little

[cemetary]

He has a Web Site Dougie but post up very little

 

 

Ian, I always pay attention to detail.

[pigeon359]

From the Web Site:30 July 2013 - Hi all the birds are now all electronically tagged and there is a list of all the birds remaining under LOFT LIST

Now that the birds are all ets tagged we had our first trainiing toss liberated at Alnwick 37 miles. The training result can

be found under TRAINING RESULT. I would like to thank everyone for their patience and understanding as I realise

it took longer than anticipated to get the birds tagged and the info onto the web. Cheers Billy

 

 

 

Pigeon Basics syndicate birds were delivered on the last day which gave him 17 weeks to Tag the birds Which is less than 4 a day :emoticon-0179-headbang:

Doesn't make any sense does it? Could it be that right from the word go the birds started to vanish and rather than be out £1.40 a bird for the ets ring he decided to leave it nearer to the hot spots for fear of being out of pocket even more? Possibly trying to cut corners to save a bob or two since the entries and profit weren't to be as expected? From the 270 birds lost WITHOUT ets rings on he has now saved himself £300 and that's not including the savings on his own birds that were lost too? Not saying this is how it did go down but something isn't right and just a personal thought of my own........

As for losses, very little has been said regarding the aviary being blown off during the gales we had recently so has this something to do with the amount of birds missing? Were there lots of birds missing then that he didn't want to mention for fear of being held libel for them in the form of a refund? ETS printouts would have shown early on what was missing so is this whole thing just a massive cover-up?

Could be wrong in both these assumptions but if Billy wont provide any information on this whole sham then what are we meant to think?

[cemetary]

Doesn't make any sense does it? Could it be that right from the word go the birds started to vanish and rather than be out £1.40 a bird for the ets ring he decided to leave it nearer to the hot spots for fear of being out of pocket even more? Possibly trying to cut corners to save a bob or two since the entries and profit weren't to be as expected? From the 270 birds lost WITHOUT ets rings on he has now saved himself £300 and that's not including the savings on his own birds that were lost too? Not saying this is how it did go down but something isn't right and just a personal thought of my own........

As for losses, very little has been said regarding the aviary being blown off during the gales we had recently so has this something to do with the amount of birds missing? Were there lots of birds missing then that he didn't want to mention for fear of being held libel for them in the form of a refund? ETS printouts would have shown early on what was missing so is this whole thing just a massive cover-up?

Could be wrong in both these assumptions but if Billy wont provide any information on this whole sham then what are we meant to think?

[peter2010]

I thought they were doing a good job with the olr but come on where is it situated the Bermuda Triangle 270 missing the posts I read which we're on the olr website about training made out everything was going great but Has something else caused this huge loss in birds which the people paying deserve to know as its not just a few pound were talking about

[Guest IB]

SNFC met with Billy on 15/4/13, and two things spring to mind from that meeting relevant to this thread. Not the words Billy used, these are my recollections of what he told us:

 

(1) 'there were a lot of peregrines both there, and north of Lamberton, he could see them when driving down'.

 

(2) 'the birds were recorded on ETS both when leaving and again when entering the loft... the way they went out and the way they came back in were different - and this was how he kept track of what birds were in the loft.'

[Guest bigda]

SNFC met with Billy on 15/4/13, and two things spring to mind from that meeting relevant to this thread. Not the words Billy used, these are my recollections of what he told us:

 

(1) 'there were a lot of peregrines both there, and north of Lamberton, he could see them when driving down'.

 

(2) 'the birds were recorded on ETS both when leaving and again when entering the loft... the way they went out and the way they came back in were different - and this was how he kept track of what birds were in the loft.'

 

so what you are saying, they always had the ets ring on them, or believed to be the case.

[Guest bigda]

are the one loft birds transferd to billy, if not has any of the lost birds been reported

[Delboy]

Its a pity how things have went up til now with the SOLR. Billy hasn't had a chance with all the planning and red tape hes had to deal with, however, you only make enemies if you haven't complete transparency for your entrants. This is the exact same thing that's happened with the SNFC in recent years, a lot of cloak and dagger stuff imo. I hope everything works out and we can learn from our mistakes to take forward to the SOLR for next year.