dkj Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 ok then, the marking station is at gretna hows that, anywhere i travel 2 it . when i stayed in annan went 2 bathgate for central marking for the gold cup.
dkj Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Its a shortage of fanciers that are capable of flying races of 500 miles and beyond which is the problem nothing to do with inland races. i agree with u 100%
Delboy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Central marking is a must for the GOLD CUP.Security is paramount if you know what I mean.
tiger Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Central marking is a must for the GOLD CUP.Security is paramount if you know what I mean.your 100% right and thats not like me agreeing with you
wee ecky Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 why dont wedo away with both inland nationals making the first national ypress sec alencon third longest race 4th clermont young bird national a racepoint where every body flys at least 200 miles thus getting back to what the snfc is all about maidstone most feds could all race together in a sort of combine with probably two transporters taking birds
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Central marking is a must for the GOLD CUP.Security is paramount if you know what I mean. I think central marking has its pros and cons,but can you explain to me how it is more secure Derek?
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 My own personal preference for a race program would be the following. 15th June - Ypres 28th June - Alencon 6th July - Maidstone yearling National6th July - Longest race, Tours 611 miles possibly Ancenis 591 miles 13th July - Clermont
Guest stb- Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Its a shortage of fanciers that are capable of flying races of 500 miles and beyond which is the problem nothing to do with inland races.vinnie its a shortage of fanciers period theres very few left down here now .
Guest stb- Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 i dont think it would Rab,most fanciers that think they have a good pigeon sent it to a 500 mile race and never see it again.after that they are finished with 500 mile racing,the way to get the birdage up is for the two clubs to become one,that and only that will see an increase. :emoticon-0167-beer: vince even with the 2 combined the totals would still be very low birdages comparedto what it was pre inland nats , the amount of fanciers who said last year that there fancied channel doos bit the dust at the inlands in a lot . including doos thats flow gold cup and scored previous
JADE Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Nobody forces fanciers to send their gold cup candidates to the inland nationals. As others have said there is a limited number of birds in Scotland capable of flying 500+ miles andeven less fanciers intertested in long distance racing. The inland nationals are popular and to be honest I dont know whether the snfc would be better of without them or not. My gut feeling is that membership would drop without the inland races
alec guinness Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Nobody forces fanciers to send their gold cup candidates to the inland nationals. As others have said there is a limited number of birds in Scotland capable of flying 500+ miles andeven less fanciers intertested in long distance racing. The inland nationals are popular and to be honest I dont know whether the snfc would be better of without them or not. My gut feeling is that membership would drop without the inland races have got to agree,the days when most doomen waited all weekend to get (or maybe not) a channel doo home have long since past,stacks of fanciers want day coastal racing and the SNFC can and should continue to cater for all,racing from 300miles to 600miles!!!!!
lightning fast Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 have got to agree,the days when most doomen waited all weekend to get (or maybe not) a channel doo home have long since past,stacks of fanciers want day coastal racing and the SNFC can and should continue to cater for all,racing from 300miles to 600miles!!!!! Totally agree John well said
DJWa Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 newbury for young bird national 400 to 450 miles to the guys in the north sectiondont think there will be much birdage with y/bs if this was the case we already fly leicester 318 to 360 milesrough estimates to milage
novo10 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 400 to 450 miles to the guys in the north sectiondont think there will be much birdage with y/bs if this was the case we already fly leicester 318 to 360 milesrough estimates to milagewhat birdage do the north send
JADE Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 newbury for young bird national Dont send yearlings to Newbury. Absolutely no chance of sending young birds there
DJWa Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 what birdage do the north send2007 sent 2082008 sent 2172009 sent 2852010 sent 2122011 sent 179
Guest stb- Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) have got to agree,the days when most doomen waited all weekend to get (or maybe not) a channel doo home have long since past,stacks of fanciers want day coastal racing and the SNFC can and should continue to cater for all,racing from 300miles to 600miles!!!!! the west coast combine and scot cent combine used to have 1000s of birds at the coast but the inland nats killed that of in my opinion and are now defunct well the wcc is and scc not far behind . Remember there are more folk non members of the nat than members and i would say the demise of the combines has taken away the coast races for the fanciers who aint interested in the nationals . Its somthing i think will come back to bite us in the ass someday as a lot of these opens and combines were the starting blocks for most folk in the sport,jmo :emoticon-0167-beer:most hobbies have went the same way . Its also the same with showing my canaries , the big specialist shows sprung up with 1000s of the same type of birds and fanciers stopped showing at the local cage bird shows in all the towns , the cage birds shows have almost all over went under due to lack of support and will never come back but the cage bird shows are where everyone comming into the hobby starts from really and sadly the small shows are gone and the big specialist ones dwindiling due to lack of new starts . Edited January 10, 2013 by stb-
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 I think central marking has its pros and cons,but can you explain to me how it is more secure Derek? Wasn’t trying to be a smarta**e Derek. Just wanted to know the security reasons. I tend to take into account the Irish proven cheat we know of operated from a central marking station.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 Wasn’t trying to be a smarta**e Derek. Just wanted to know the security reasons. I tend to take into account the Irish proven cheat we know of operated from a central marking station.And he was caught because it was a central marking station,
novo10 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 imo the guy could have been caught if the birds had been re rubbered
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 And he was caught because it was a central marking station, I disagree Gareth He was caught becasue someone took the time to stay through the duration of the marking.Nothing to do with it being central,regional or any other al. Was there a time when the SNFC would send out letters of invitation to markers?? If anything this would increase security having a few people in the markin station from start to finish.
Ian McKay Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 And he was caught because it was a central marking station, Wrong Gareth it was a marking station he was running Not a central one imo the guy could have been caught if the birds had been re rubbered More wrong info he was on rubbers
novo10 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 Wrong Gareth it was a marking station he was running Not a central one More wrong info he was on rubbersian read the post re rubbered change the colour of rubbers
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 Ian, i believe there is crossed paths, the topic is jumping between the cheat in Ulster and the cheat from Scotland.
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