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ok then, the marking station is at gretna hows that,

 

anywhere i travel 2 it . when i stayed in annan went 2 bathgate for central marking for the gold cup.

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Its a shortage of fanciers that are capable of flying races of 500 miles and beyond which is the problem nothing to do with inland races.

 

 

i agree with u 100%

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why dont wedo away with both inland nationals making the first national ypress sec alencon third longest race 4th clermont young bird national a racepoint where every body flys at least 200 miles thus getting back to what the snfc is all about maidstone most feds could all race together in a sort of combine with probably two transporters taking birds

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My own personal preference for a race program would be the following.

 

15th June - Ypres

 

28th June - Alencon

 

6th July - Maidstone yearling National

6th July - Longest race, Tours 611 miles possibly Ancenis 591 miles

 

13th July - Clermont

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Its a shortage of fanciers that are capable of flying races of 500 miles and beyond which is the problem nothing to do with inland races.

vinnie its a shortage of fanciers period theres very few left down here now . :emoticon-0138-thinking:

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i dont think it would Rab,most fanciers that think they have a good pigeon sent it to a 500 mile race and never see it again.after that they are finished with 500 mile racing,the way to get the birdage up is for the two clubs to become one,that and only that will see an increase. :emoticon-0167-beer: :emoticon-0167-beer: :emoticon-0167-beer:

vince even with the 2 combined the totals would still be very low birdages

 

comparedto what it was pre inland nats , the amount of fanciers who said last year that there fancied channel doos bit the dust at the inlands in

a lot . including doos thats flow gold cup and scored previous

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Nobody forces fanciers to send their gold cup candidates to the inland nationals. As others have said there is a limited number of birds in Scotland capable of flying 500+ miles andeven less fanciers intertested in long distance racing. The inland nationals are popular and to be honest I dont know whether the snfc would be better of without them or not. My gut feeling is that membership would drop without the inland races

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Nobody forces fanciers to send their gold cup candidates to the inland nationals. As others have said there is a limited number of birds in Scotland capable of flying 500+ miles andeven less fanciers intertested in long distance racing. The inland nationals are popular and to be honest I dont know whether the snfc would be better of without them or not. My gut feeling is that membership would drop without the inland races

 

have got to agree,the days when most doomen waited all weekend to get (or maybe not) a channel doo home have long since past,stacks of fanciers want day coastal racing and the SNFC can and should continue to cater for all,racing from 300miles to 600miles!!!!! :partick-thistle-Crest:

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have got to agree,the days when most doomen waited all weekend to get (or maybe not) a channel doo home have long since past,stacks of fanciers want day coastal racing and the SNFC can and should continue to cater for all,racing from 300miles to 600miles!!!!! :partick-thistle-Crest:

 

Totally agree John well said

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newbury for young bird national

 

400 to 450 miles to the guys in the north section

dont think there will be much birdage with y/bs if this was the case

 

we already fly leicester 318 to 360 miles

rough estimates to milage

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400 to 450 miles to the guys in the north section

dont think there will be much birdage with y/bs if this was the case

 

we already fly leicester 318 to 360 miles

rough estimates to milage

what birdage do the north send

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have got to agree,the days when most doomen waited all weekend to get (or maybe not) a channel doo home have long since past,stacks of fanciers want day coastal racing and the SNFC can and should continue to cater for all,racing from 300miles to 600miles!!!!! :partick-thistle-Crest:

the west coast combine and scot cent combine used to have 1000s of birds at the coast but the inland nats killed that of in my opinion and are now defunct well the wcc is and scc not far behind . Remember there are more folk non members of the nat than members

and i would say the demise of the combines has taken away the coast races for the fanciers who aint interested in the nationals . Its somthing i think will come back to bite us in the ass someday as a lot of these opens and combines were the starting blocks for most folk in the sport,

jmo :emoticon-0167-beer:most hobbies have went the same way . Its also the same with showing my canaries , the big specialist shows sprung up with 1000s of the same type of birds and fanciers stopped showing at the local cage bird shows in all the towns , the cage birds shows have almost all over went under due to lack of support and will never come back but the cage bird shows are where everyone comming into the hobby starts from really and sadly the small shows are gone and the big specialist ones dwindiling due to lack of new starts .

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I think central marking has its pros and cons,but can you explain to me how it is more secure Derek?

 

Wasn’t trying to be a smarta**e Derek. Just wanted to know the security reasons.

 

I tend to take into account the Irish proven cheat we know of operated from a central marking station.

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Wasn’t trying to be a smarta**e Derek. Just wanted to know the security reasons.

 

I tend to take into account the Irish proven cheat we know of operated from a central marking station.

And he was caught because it was a central marking station,

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And he was caught because it was a central marking station,

 

I disagree Gareth

 

He was caught becasue someone took the time to stay through the duration of the marking.Nothing to do with it being central,regional or any other al.

 

Was there a time when the SNFC would send out letters of invitation to markers??

 

If anything this would increase security having a few people in the markin station from start to finish.

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And he was caught because it was a central marking station,

 

 

Wrong Gareth it was a marking station he was running Not a central one

 

imo the guy could have been caught if the birds had been re rubbered

 

 

More wrong info he was on rubbers

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Wrong Gareth it was a marking station he was running Not a central one

 

 

 

 

More wrong info he was on rubbers

ian read the post re rubbered change the colour of rubbers

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Ian, i believe there is crossed paths, the topic is jumping between the cheat in Ulster and the cheat from Scotland.

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