kev01293 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 a couple of my o/b,s have got patches on the back of their necks where the feather quill has been eaten away leaving just the stubbs! ive tried ivermectin drops but that didnt work? can anyone give me any ideas? maybe youve had the same problem and cured it? any help appreciated kev
Tony C Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 Have read (possibly on this site) that any aerosol flykiller containing Pyrethrins will shift them.
walterbmasson Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 a couple of my o/b,s have got patches on the back of their necks where the feather quill has been eaten away leaving just the stubbs! ive tried ivermectin drops but that didnt work? can anyone give me any ideas? maybe youve had the same problem and cured it? any help appreciatedkev kev quick remedy for this problem gees fluid take a pen or a feather and just lift the feathers dab under the feathers just a dab or 2 sorted its a fungi
kev01293 Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Posted May 21, 2012 thanks chaps i will give the fly spray a go first as have some in cupboard containing pyrethrin then the moxedectin if its needed? did you mean gees fluid walter or jays fluid-i thought id better check in case its needed? atb kev
walterbmasson Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 thanks chaps i will give the fly spray a go first as have some in cupboard containing pyrethrin then the moxedectin if its needed? did you mean gees fluid walter or jays fluid-i thought id better check in case its needed? atb kev Kev jeys fluid disinfectant if it is eating the feathers the spray is no good the jeys fluid clears it right away in our club we keep a tin of jeys fluid at hand any sign of this eating of feather its dabbed going into the crate very good ?
just ask me Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 thanks chaps i will give the fly spray a go first as have some in cupboard containing pyrethrin then the moxedectin if its needed? did you mean gees fluid walter or jays fluid-i thought id better check in case its needed? atb kev can cause burns to the feathers the spray be careful
billt Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 The old remedy used to be Flowers Of Sulpher, a powder obtainable from chemists, mixed with margarine and rubbed in, not had it for years so don't know if it's still available
kev01293 Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Posted May 23, 2012 thanks for your help everyone its appreciated, kev
Guest big pete Posted May 24, 2012 Report Posted May 24, 2012 moxidectent will do the job how do you apply moxidectine please??
Guest Blaydon Racer Posted May 24, 2012 Report Posted May 24, 2012 Dead simple--buy a packet of Chlorocarb--- mix with about 1 1/2 gallon of water and dip them --all lice mite etc will be gone within 24 hrs and they will stay free of them until they moult the feathers out
Roland Posted May 24, 2012 Report Posted May 24, 2012 http://www.chevita.com/en/products/index-pigeons.php http://www.abbeypet.freeserve.co.uk/pages/aviform.htm
just ask me Posted May 24, 2012 Report Posted May 24, 2012 how do you apply moxidectine please?? i don't really giving out doses in case there are different strengths of the drug as can often happen depending where you get it i would also advise doing them again in 14 days or so as it doubles up as a wormier and you need to re treat if they had of had worms it will also do air sac mite too which i think is a bigger problem than it used to be
ALF Posted May 24, 2012 Report Posted May 24, 2012 Dead simple--buy a packet of Chlorocarb--- mix with about 1 1/2 gallon of water and dip them --all lice mite etc will be gone within 24 hrs and they will stay free of them until they moult the feathers out :animatedpigeons: :animatedpigeons:
Guest Owen Posted May 24, 2012 Report Posted May 24, 2012 Moxidectin or cydectin will be best. I have no experience of using dips but I see no reason why they should not work providing you get the mix right. I would not use either distinfectants or fly spray because or the damage they could do. Fly spray will damage the birds lungs and can kill birds if the dose is high or the spray is used in a confined space. The lungs of all birds are much more delicate than mammals like us so you have to be far more careful. Strong concentrations of Jeyes fluid will burn the birds and damage the follicles of the feathers which will spoil their chances for racing. Moxidectin or cydectin will be best. I have no experience of using dips but I see no reason why they should not work providing you get the mix right. I would not use either distinfectants or fly spray because or the damage they could do. Fly spray will damage the birds lungs and can kill birds if the dose is high or the spray is used in a confined space. The lungs of all birds are much more delicate than mammals like us so you have to be far more careful. Strong concentrations of Jeyes fluid will burn the birds and damage the follicles of the feathers which will spoil their chances for racing.
walterbmasson Posted May 25, 2012 Report Posted May 25, 2012 Moxidectin or cydectin will be best. I have no experience of using dips but I see no reason why they should not work providing you get the mix right. I would not use either distinfectants or fly spray because or the damage they could do. Fly spray will damage the birds lungs and can kill birds if the dose is high or the spray is used in a confined space. The lungs of all birds are much more delicate than mammals like us so you have to be far more careful. Strong concentrations of Jeyes fluid will burn the birds and damage the follicles of the feathers which will spoil their chances for racing. Moxidectin or cydectin will be best. I have no experience of using dips but I see no reason why they should not work providing you get the mix right. I would not use either distinfectants or fly spray because or the damage they could do. Fly spray will damage the birds lungs and can kill birds if the dose is high or the spray is used in a confined space. The lungs of all birds are much more delicate than mammals like us so you have to be far more careful. Strong concentrations of Jeyes fluid will burn the birds and damage the follicles of the feathers which will spoil their chances for racing. Owen mite dont eat bloody feathers ? Dip is the right method for this blood sucking parasites but any body that has the fungi eating the feathers JEYS FLUID IS A MUST ? And for damageing there lungs we fly the furthest events up here in the north of scotland and if anything this will do more good in getting there air sacks tubes breathing more freely & and does not leave any marks on feathers & the best way is to let kev try it out and let him post if this dont work and if left this mans birds will be in a mess as it goes through his birds in a matter of weeks ?
just ask me Posted May 25, 2012 Report Posted May 25, 2012 Owen mite dont eat bloody feathers ? Dip is the right method for this blood sucking parasites but any body that has the fungi eating the feathers JEYS FLUID IS A MUST ? And for damageing there lungs we fly the furthest events up here in the north of scotland and if anything this will do more good in getting there air sacks tubes breathing more freely & and does not leave any marks on feathers & the best way is to let kev try it out and let him post if this dont work and if left this mans birds will be in a mess as it goes through his birds in a matter of weeks ? moxi works though the blood of the bird i believe and so will work on mite if i remember correctly it attacks the nervous system of external parasite its used world wide for this purpose it is probably the most recommend drug world wide for external mite i dont think any other drug kills off as much as what moxi does from external parasites to worms to air sac mite ive never used jeys fluid on my birds and after a quick look on the net i don't think i would as apart from burning there are many other ways of hurting a animal
Guest Owen Posted May 25, 2012 Report Posted May 25, 2012 walterbmassonsorry Mate but I can not agree with what you have written. Moxidectine definitely kills mite and is much safer to use that strong iodine based disinfectants. Birds have a very different respiratory system from mammals and are very prone to injury or death as a result of fumes or gases. That is why budgies get killed by fly spray when we may not even notice it and also why canaries used down the mines because they are affected by gas before we humans are aware that there is a problem. This is also why pigeons and chickens, for that matter, require a ready supply of oxygen to maintain health. You know as well as me that many pigeon Fanciers ruin their birds because they deny them the essential fresh air that pigeons need to acquire the super health that wins races. Equally, I often hear of people's pigeons suffering with respiratory problems when they should realise that the remedy is simple enough. Fresh air and sunshine. If I am in close proximity to someone using an insect spray my chest will go tight and unless I move I will suffer breathing problems. I say this because I know that if it is that bad for me it will be ten times worse for the poor bird being forced to breath this poison into it's lungs. If you want to carry on doing this sort of thing that is your business but I hope no-one takes your advice because it could cost them dear.
walterbmasson Posted May 25, 2012 Report Posted May 25, 2012 moxi works though the blood of the bird i believe and so will work on mite if i remember correctly it attacks the nervous system of external parasite its used world wide for this purpose it is probably the most recommend drug world wide for external mite i dont think any other drug kills off as much as what moxi does from external parasites to worms to air sac mite ive never used jeys fluid on my birds and after a quick look on the net i don't think i would as apart from burning there are many other ways of hurting a animal Well its up to each individual what they want to treat there birds our club would not use anything else as it kills the fungi right away , and does no harm to the birds but i ask you what do you use for fungi < all i said that dipping birds wont kill fungi as i have tried it then daktarin was used and that left the birds in a bloody mess ? And i said to kev that it was not mite that was eating the feathers ? But what makes you so sure that it burns the birds there is no marks on the birds after being dabbed with jeys fluid and i can tell you if your birds were coming in to our club with feathers being eaten they wont be marked with out being treated as it spreads from bird to bird ? But if anybody wants to side step doing them with jeys fluid by all means dont end of ?
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