Advise On Widowhood

[Guest m.bollington]

hi guys i have my first old bird season coming up nxy year and have some yearlings to race can any one give me advise on how to do the widowhood system please via pm or on this post any advise will be helpful thank you

[dwh]

IF THEY ALL YEARLING I WOULD FLY THEM NATURAL JMO

[OLDYELLOW]

I'll send you a few bit later mate

[b.massey]

hi guys i have my first old bird season coming up nxy year and have some yearlings to race can any one give me advise on how to do the widowhood system please via pm or on this post any advise will be helpful thank you

 

You have an email I could send info?

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THIS WOULD SUIT ME .WITH ME BEING ON OXYGEN 24/7.WOULD IT BE EASYER OR HARDER LOOKING FOR ADVICE PLEASE.///

[andy Burgess]

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THIS WOULD SUIT ME .WITH ME BEING ON OXYGEN 24/7.WOULD IT BE EASYER OR HARDER LOOKING FOR ADVICE PLEASE.///

for you TOOSHY it may work well , a good few cocks out for regular excersize twice a day , minimum of fuss in my opinion .

[demolition man]

IF THEY ALL YEARLING I WOULD FLY THEM NATURAL JMO

 

 

Out of interest could you explain why plz,

[just ask me]

some of best widowhood cocks over the last few year were yearlings

[dwh]

Out of interest could you explain why plz,

just think yearlings come better on natural jmo

[dal2]

just think yearlings come better on natural jmo

Some Davey! I think the secret is knowing when you have over motivated a yearling!!!! Difficult even for the seasoned flier like yerself :emoticon-0127-lipssealed: :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

[OLDYELLOW]

http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/20793-my-racing-system-celibert/

 

a few motivation techniques in above thread which I've bumped

[just ask me]

http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/20793-my-racing-system-celibert/

 

a few motivation techniques in above thread which I've bumped

 

 

tried the tricks i did not read that thread yet but i find tricks had no real benefit others swear by little tricks hard to know

[OLDYELLOW]

tried the tricks i did not read that thread yet but i find tricks had no real benefit others swear by little tricks hard to know

I believe with widowhood it's finding what suit each one as a individual rank keen hens that show for cocks is a must and quite a few continentals don't even use same hens for cocks either , you can over wind them up imo , there's loads of different ways to do things each to there own i only used to show hens for first 3 races , then that changed to return only other ways are locking cocks out of there boxes or locking a cock in another box most is observation you get to know one cock doesn't like another and so on , cocks that are kept on lock back are more aggressive i prefer them less aggressive and more harmony in the loft many many ways many different opinions but each to there own

[shugf2003]

what ever you choose to do be it widowhood or natural dont start to work your yearlings untill the weather gets warmer

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Any cocks on widowhood we've had in the past that came half like the thing were the ones that had the "best" or most affectionate mates.

 

Hens in good condition and that are keen on the cock are very important.

 

They say if yer hens are begining to pair then you can forget a good performance from the cock.To stop this people lock them in individual boxes or have grills on the floor.Best way I think without the need for this is to have perches in your end that can only hold one bird,whether they are V or box perches.Go to your local newsagents and buy 2 or 3 of the 99p "Fly Away" fitbas and get a tube of tennis balls.Scatter them on the floor in your hens section and they won't pair

[alex young]

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THIS WOULD SUIT ME .WITH ME BEING ON OXYGEN 24/7.WOULD IT BE EASYER OR HARDER LOOKING FOR ADVICE PLEASE.///

Tooshy,could be a lot easier for you.When I worked shifts I would give them a feed at 8-00am and not let them out,then at 11-30am I would let them out and they flew really well,then get them in to a good feed at 1-00pm,lock up then off to work.That was it until the next morning,you could alter the times to suit yourself,atb Tooshy.

[Guest m.bollington]

You have an email I could send info?

 

mbollington@live.co.uk cheers

 

I'll send you a few bit later mate

 

thank you mate

[andy Burgess]

i would advise anyone considering widowhood to find a copy of Dave Allen,s "a widowhood year" ,well worth a read .

[lvlasked]

nice i been looking to go on windowhood so if anyone could give me some stuff to read or tips i would be greatful e-mail chrisroscoe2007@hotmail.co.uk if any help and thanks if you can help

[just ask me]

Any cocks on widowhood we've had in the past that came half like the thing were the ones that had the "best" or most affectionate mates.

 

Hens in good condition and that are keen on the cock are very important.

 

They say if yer hens are begining to pair then you can forget a good performance from the cock.To stop this people lock them in individual boxes or have grills on the floor.Best way I think without the need for this is to have perches in your end that can only hold one bird,whether they are V or box perches.Go to your local newsagents and buy 2 or 3 of the 99p "Fly Away" fitbas and get a tube of tennis balls.Scatter them on the floor in your hens section and they won't pair

 

 

a cock is only as good as his hen no doubt on that one where most people fall they threat there cocks great and forget about the hens

[mushroom]

The best advice I can give you is that when you go in to the loft, always remember that it is THEIR home and not YOUR loft.

[OLDYELLOW]

nice i been looking to go on windowhood so if anyone could give me some stuff to read or tips i would be greatful e-mail chrisroscoe2007@hotmail.co.uk if any help and thanks if you can help

I'll send ya a little something

[yeboah]

Having only tried widowhood proper for the first time this year I was more than happy with performance and results,I changed to widowhood to prevent having to basket train because of horrendous losses incurred by the falcon,I got plenty of help and advice from some of the best in the game but found that you must perfect a SYSTEM that suits your work schedule and stick to it ,example 5-30 mornings 5-30 evenings 7 days a week all season no compromise,as for feeding i never broke mine down same all week except last two feeds depending on forecast for weekend be it SW wind or NW wind,i did find that when they were really performing they got as much as they wanted to eat at night then when they were really on top form found it difficult to get them to eat at all,do feel that one of the main factors with the widowers was leaving them to rest all day with no one entering the lofts,everyone to there own can only say i got an enormous amount of satisfaction out of watching them flying freely and would not change back to natural flying under present circumstances,Good Luck to all suppose its whatever system that we find suits our needs and gets us away from the hassle that is WORK!!.

[andy Burgess]

Having only tried widowhood proper for the first time this year I was more than happy with performance and results,I changed to widowhood to prevent having to basket train because of horrendous losses incurred by the falcon,I got plenty of help and advice from some of the best in the game but found that you must perfect a SYSTEM that suits your work schedule and stick to it ,example 5-30 mornings 5-30 evenings 7 days a week all season no compromise,as for feeding i never broke mine down same all week except last two feeds depending on forecast for weekend be it SW wind or NW wind,i did find that when they were really performing they got as much as they wanted to eat at night then when they were really on top form found it difficult to get them to eat at all,do feel that one of the main factors with the widowers was leaving them to rest all day with no one entering the lofts,everyone to there own can only say i got an enormous amount of satisfaction out of watching them flying freely and would not change back to natural flying under present circumstances,Good Luck to all suppose its whatever system that we find suits our needs and gets us away from the hassle that is WORK!!.

a good honest post .