Belgian Racepoints

[frank-123]

Would ye no rather a diploma frae the big yin?

 

gold cup of course steven

but if it is a choice of ypres or sartilly with my fed i will be with the snfc trying to get a ticket

[alec guinness]

Big delboy was 5th open and he said they wouldnt go back there because it was a fairer race.was he right i think that was 10 years ago just before my time.it looks as if anything fairer in the pigeons isnt wanted

 

spot on weenanni,maybe this year. ;)

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Big delboy was 5th open and he said they wouldnt go back there because it was a fairer race.was he right i think that was 10 years ago just before my time.it looks as if anything fairer in the pigeons isnt wanted

 

Im just trying to get ma head round how it must look to an outsider

 

Obviously racing from the channel 75-100 % returns will not happen but am I right in saying the SNFC have never had a bad race returns wise from Belgium and the races have all been spread more evenly between all the sections than races from France??

[dal2]

Im just trying to get ma head round how it must look to an outsider

 

Obviously racing from the channel 75-100 % returns will not happen but am I right in saying the SNFC have never had a bad race returns wise from Belgium and the races have all been spread more evenly between all the sections than races from France??

Well us in the solway canny really compete frae Ypres so you wilnae get many puttin their hands up for it?

Yes I know wots comin next

[Guest IB]

Liege was before my time in SNFC. Took this from another thread:-

 

WRONG ,True facts Leige 2001 liberated 6-15 am lsw wind 474 members 1564 birds

North section 56 birds none on day 1st clocked second day flying 570 miles 57th open

South Section 159 birds 5 on day taking 2nd & 4th open flying 474 miles

East Section 848 birds 40 on day taking 1st & 3rd open flying 527 miles

West section 501 birds 11 on day taking 5th open flying 540 miles

total 56 day birds vel of first 1248 vel of 56th bird 953

Strike rate on first day ---

North -0

South 1 in 32

East 1 in 21

West 1 in 46

Total of 155 birds clocked by end of race 16 -30hrs following afternoon

1409 BIRDS MISSING AND THAT WAS IN A LIGHT SOUTH WEST WIND

SECTION C HAD BY FAR THE BEST RACE CLOCKING 19 ON THE NIGHT

SUGGESTING THE BIRDS CROSSED VERY HIGH UP THE COUNTRY IF THE WIND WERE STRONG WHERE WOULD THEY HAVE CROSSED IF AT ALL

[JADE]

loads of alternatives on the same rout!

like messac

[dal2]

like messac

Ye

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Well us in the solway canny really compete frae Ypres so you wilnae get many puttin their hands up for it?

Yes I know wots comin next

 

Aye I can see thats the general opinion of the Section A lads goin on the entry to this years race despite the lowest position bein 21st in the three years previous.A lot of birds will have been lost as well this season though so it will have had a bearing on the Sec A turnout.

 

I can see as well how fi the Sec A lads point of view they were that used to being in the top 5 fi more or less every race down the old route so will indeed be eager to go back.

 

A part of me really thinks the SNFC should settle on a programme and just stick to it regardless,another part of me thinks it'd be a good idea to swing it about every other year to spread it around a bit.Its the same old story though somebody will always be in a better position than somebody else.Ye can only try yer best tae get yer doos right and try and enjoy yer racin

[dal2]

Aye I can see thats the general opinion of the Section A lads goin on the entry to this years race despite the lowest position bein 21st in the three years previous.A lot of birds will have been lost as well this season though so it will have had a bearing on the Sec A turnout.

 

I can see as well how fi the Sec A lads point of view they were that used to being in the top 5 fi more or less every race down the old route so will indeed be eager to go back.

 

A part of me really thinks the SNFC should settle on a programme and just stick to it regardless,another part of me thinks it'd be a good idea to swing it about every other year to spread it around a bit.Its the same old story though somebody will always be in a better position than somebody else.Ye can only try yer best tae get yer doos right and try and enjoy yer racin

Ye give a go frae anywhere Lewis.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Ye give a go frae anywhere Lewis.

 

Aye thats it Stevie

[ALF]

SNFC will lose a fair bit of income from Ypres now that Lanarkshire have decided to go to a more westerly racepoint for our channel race will this put Ypres in jeopardy as a SNFC next year?? I hope not but as always money plays a big part in theses races....

[W.D.]

How good a race was Liege for the Gold Cup??I was only around 11 at the time,we joined the SNFC the year after and its the only yearbook I have missing Dunno where it is.

 

Remember Sandy Watson from my fed was in the top 10.It was won in Sec C,Section A 2nd?? Section E 5th??First pigeon in the North was 58th open

 

What were the returns like??

Think the NW Fed had a good race from there Lewis, think Wull Graham, McGarry from Camelon also well in too.

Jim O'Hara was on SNFC at time, and wanted to keep one of the Belgian Racepoints in the program for following year, but it got shot down by others at AGM vote, and until Ypres came along( not by SNFC)it would never have been put back on for us to race from there.

[W.D.]

Well us in the solway canny really compete frae Ypres so you wilnae get many puttin their hands up for it?

Yes I know wots comin next

Not true pal you won it the 1st year it was raced,Ask Douglas Owen???!!!

[alec guinness]

SNFC will lose a fair bit of income from Ypres now that Lanarkshire have decided to go to a more westerly racepoint for our channel race will this put Ypres in jeopardy as a SNFC next year?? I hope not but as always money plays a big part in theses races....

 

 

dont think ypres will be under threat as a national alan has been the best national race by a country mile since its inseption,the lanarkshire boys will miss it big time though. ;)

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Think the NW Fed had a good race from there Lewis, think Wull Graham, McGarry from Camelon also well in too.

Jim O'Hara was on SNFC at time, and wanted to keep one of the Belgian Racepoints in the program for following year, but it got shot down by others at AGM vote, and until Ypres came along( not by SNFC)it would never have been put back on for us to race from there.

 

Aye a mind Wull was well in.He went through a good wee spell actually :)Nice to see the NW gettin a wee turn in McGarry as well

 

Well you'd think Ypres will still be in the programme next season but like some are saying their might not be a huge turnout from Sec E.

 

I quite like the look of the 2010 programme but we'll have to see what happens come vote time

[dal2]

Not true pal you won it the 1st year it was raced,Ask Douglas Owen???!!!

 

Deffo did! Have a look at the results tho? I remember watchin the results come in on the net and the returns doon here wer patchy tae say the least!

I dinny mind the racepoints in the east but its not true that racing frae the west is a no goer? Liege 2001( I think) was a stinker!!! You get them anywhere?

 

I was lucky enuff tae be 1st secta in 2010 and second bird clocked in which turned oot tae be a great performance for 21st open. I wont knock Ypres.

[W.D.]

Aye a mind Wull was well in.He went through a good wee spell actually :)Nice to see the NW gettin a wee turn in McGarry as well

 

Well you'd think Ypres will still be in the programme next season but like some are saying their might not be a huge turnout from Sec E.

 

I quite like the look of the 2010 programme but we'll have to see what happens come vote time

Ypres, was not originally a SNFC Race Lewis, it was put to the SHU who passed it on to the SNFC.It was at one time hoped to be open to the whole of Scotland regardless of which Nat they were in, but it wasn't to be unfortunately.

The Belgians wanted the race, i.e. the Burghermeister of Ypres, along with Mr.Martens,who originally put it out to RPRA and other Organisations in UK, and ONLY Scotland took up the challenge, No-one else was interested.

And thats what I am proud of in being a Scot. If there was a race from the North pole next year, you can bet that there will be a Scotsman first in the queue at the marking station!!!

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Ypres, was not originally a SNFC Race Lewis, it was put to the SHU who passed it on to the SNFC.It was at one time hoped to be open to the whole of Scotland regardless of which Nat they were in, but it wasn't to be unfortunately.

The Belgians wanted the race, i.e. the Burghermeister of Ypres, along with Mr.Martens,who originally put it out to RPRA and other Organisations in UK, and ONLY Scotland took up the challenge, No-one else was interested.

And thats what I am proud of in being a Scot. If there was a race from the North pole next year, you can bet that there will be a Scotsman first in the queue at the marking station!!!

 

Aye thats very true

 

Heard some murmours of an Olympic race to be held next year somewhere on the continent ??

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Aye thats very true

 

Heard some murmours of an Olympic race to be held next year somewhere on the continent ??

 

Berlin 29th of July which is just not feasible into Scotland due to the spanse of water.

Which is -:

655 miles to eyemouth

738 to Larkhall

695 to Gretna

 

other race is London on the 11th August

 

http://olympicraces.com/page22.php

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Ypres, was not originally a SNFC Race Lewis, it was put to the SHU who passed it on to the SNFC.It was at one time hoped to be open to the whole of Scotland regardless of which Nat they were in, but it wasn't to be unfortunately.

The Belgians wanted the race, i.e. the Burghermeister of Ypres, along with Mr.Martens,who originally put it out to RPRA and other Organisations in UK, and ONLY Scotland took up the challenge, No-one else was interested.

And thats what I am proud of in being a Scot. If there was a race from the North pole next year, you can bet that there will be a Scotsman first in the queue at the marking station!!!

Great attitude W.D, which is respectful of the decision of the majority that decided on a race program, wish others would take a leaf out of your book.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Ypres so far has been kind to Scotland, the reason it is kinder is that it is 60 miles shorter than Sartilly and Falaise. Members are comparing these two which is unfair it is 2 different types of pigeons. Ypres is a fantastic race for yearlings as well as middle distance doos. Plenty pigeons have been timed on the shift from here but in all the years we have been racing from the west side of France we have never had a race of the equivalent distance of Ypres. I believe that if we could have this then the members would get the same encouragement as they get with Ypres added to this the pigeons have land to fly over which you do not get from Ypres especially with a good west wind which we have not had as yet.

 

Ypres for me is still in the Honeymoon period as it has not had a day that has been testing for the pigeons, not saying the national should not be including it in there program as it has been kind so far.

[walterbmasson]

Ypres so far has been kind to Scotland, the reason it is kinder is that it is 60 miles shorter than Sartilly and Falaise. Members are comparing these two which is unfair it is 2 different types of pigeons. Ypres is a fantastic race for yearlings as well as middle distance doos. Plenty pigeons have been timed on the shift from here but in all the years we have been racing from the west side of France we have never had a race of the equivalent distance of Ypres. I believe that if we could have this then the members would get the same encouragement as they get with Ypres added to this the pigeons have land to fly over which you do not get from Ypres especially with a good west wind which we have not had as yet.

 

Ypres for me is still in the Honeymoon period as it has not had a day that has been testing for the pigeons, not saying the national should not be including it in there program as it has been kind so far.

the very first ypres was a few hundred birds let go in rain and turned up a good race you mentioned going over land why not try them we a bit more of water like brest about 60 miles a water and see how good a race it turns oot you mention this west wind it takes a good breeze o wind ta knock birds off course early on birds can see over water fa 60 miles and know to cross for god sake mention a few miles a water AND the doos gets sea sick fit it is a that is happening is what advantage one gets your doos will get a better chance i just cant believe that this crap is coming up nearly every day yer wanting as fair racing as you can get well make every bird cross at least 60miles o water or further? Them that does not cross doesent deserve ta win a NATIONAL WHY SHOULD IT? END O STORY WALTER TELLS IT AS IT IS MAKE THE DOO A TRULY WORTHY CHAMPION