Lanarkshire Fed Delegates Meeting

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

this is all down to breeding of untested doos year after year with the start at young bird raceing so get it sorted

Said it for long enough myself.

 

I know It's never going to happen, but perhaps it should be made compulsory that all young birds have to be on the darkness system or bred early enough that they have been through the body moult.

 

Benefits

 

Older, stronger and more muture

Well feathered

Can send to the full young bird program.

Can send them out to 180-200 miles without abusing them.

 

The benefits in turn that they can deal with stress better.

Healthier

Also you would be breeding from pigeons as yearlings that have flown a good distance and been educated to the hilt, this instead of breeding from pigeons that have flown 2-3 races from 70+ miles which is slippery slope to be on.

[frank-123]

Believe me, everybody in other feds see it as *expletive removed* embarrassing, end of story.expletive remove, every *expletive removed* flew 170 miles at least once with their ybs many years ago even when there were no systems to delay moult etc and the ybs were falling apart.I can see the point in giving a couple of races only to ybs THAT THE BLOOD IS PROVEN and generations of continual winners come from them, but not many of these birds are going about so the rest MUST BE TESTED TO THE FULL or we breed from sh**.sh** breeds more sh**.

 

many years ago they never had the hurdles in front of the doos were racing now

after scotch corner young bird race i had 11 left

after wetherby young bird i had 4 left

sent 11 to consett last year 1 home

that's my returns over the last few years

 

this year stopped them after hexham

[Delboy]

many years ago they never had the hurdles in front of the doos were racing now

after scotch corner young bird race i had 11 left

after wetherby young bird i had 4 left

sent 11 to consett last year 1 home

that's my returns over the last few years

 

this year stopped them after hexham

 

 

Thats true, we didnt have the hurdles then we have now, BUT we didnt breed any more than 18 ybs.Nowadays, we breed double that at least for the hurdles they face.Now you dont want them to even face the races, expletive remove

[frank-123]

Said it for long enough myself.

 

I know It's never going to happen, but perhaps it should be made compulsory that all young birds have to be on the darkness system or bred early enough that they have been through the body moult.

 

Benefits

 

Older, stronger and more muture

Well feathered

Can send to the full young bird program.

Can send them out to 180-200 miles without abusing them.

 

The benefits in turn that they can deal with stress better.

Healthier

Also you would be breeding from pigeons as yearlings that have flown a good distance and been educated to the hilt, this instead of breeding from pigeons that have flown 2-3 races from 70+ miles which is slippery slope to be on.

 

 

Gareth i used the darkness i sent 31 crackers too wetherby and got 4 home

i was leading the yb average in the club and up there in the section that years breeding was wasted

i understand what you ,derek and andy are saying but to build a team is very difficult i would love to race the whole programme

 

 

[Delboy]

i thought young birds were education education education

so after 4/5 races i stopped mine due to heavy moult now if they go down like snaw aff i dyke i will have learned a lesson

i would rather take a chance with a yearling in better feather condition ,fit and motivated and see where i get too

 

 

They dont get educated sitting on a perch. You have to think, why am I even *expletive removed* spealing tae ye about this.I havent got a punt in a club or fly for averages,trophies etc You all have this and *expletive removed* refuse to do it.I had 27 away to Thirsk ( otter)last week, why????I m flying my doos for fk all

[frank-123]

They dont get educated sitting on a perch. You have to think, why am I even *expletive removed* spealing tae ye about this.I havent got a punt in a club or fly for averages,trophies etc You all have this and *expletive removed* refuse to do it.I had 27 away to Thirsk ( otter)last week, why????I m flying my doos for fk all

 

don't you go in a bad mood now

i respect you guys for what you have done in the sport but let me try my way and if it doesn't work then i wont do it again

am sure you have tried and made a few mistakes in your long life in the pigeon game

[Delboy]

don't you go in a bad mood now

i respect you guys for what you have done in the sport but let me try my way and if it doesn't work then i wont do it again

am sure you have tried and made a few mistakes in your long life in the pigeon game

 

 

This is me in a good mood My point is Frank, test your doos, simple as that.The pigeon game becomes easier when you do this because you have less sh ite left in loft to make mistakes with. Granted, if your doos have fell apart, as some of mine have, then they cant go, but if they can go, then they should.

[Delboy]

Said it for long enough myself.

 

I know It's never going to happen, but perhaps it should be made compulsory that all young birds have to be on the darkness system or bred early enough that they have been through the body moult.Benefits

 

Older, stronger and more muture

Well feathered

Can send to the full young bird program.

Can send them out to 180-200 miles without abusing them.

 

The benefits in turn that they can deal with stress better.

Healthier

Also you would be breeding from pigeons as yearlings that have flown a good distance and been educated to the hilt, this instead of breeding from pigeons that have flown 2-3 races from 70+ miles which is slippery slope to be on.

 

 

You cant make folk fly certain systems Gareth,some havent got the time or even the lights in their lofts. I wouldnt like to do full darkness on my ybs again.

[Guest KING BILLY]

You cant make folk fly certain systems Gareth,some havent got the time or even the lights in their lofts. I wouldnt like to do full darkness on my ybs again.

are thay young birds your sending now on darkness

[airdrie2]

whare have you been lol

the same old story of the lanarkshire fed they never inform you that there is a meeting even the vice president didnt know if it was on when pmed him but i did go incase it was on what a joke .

[Delboy]

are thay young birds your sending now on darkness

 

 

No Tam, semi dark loft.Some react to my loft, some dont.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Gareth i used the darkness i sent 31 crackers too wetherby and got 4 home

i was leading the yb average in the club and up there in the section that years breeding was wasted

i understand what you ,derek and andy are saying but to build a team is very difficult i would love to race the whole programme

That race you refer to was one of those freak races, we still don't know what the cause was that day. Every so many years we are going to experience this type of race.

 

Maybe as Alf suggested already, we should have 8 races, possibly 3 races from Otterburn, 3 races from 120 miles followed by 2 races from 150 + miles this way you pigeons can be well educated without all your eggs being in the one basket as which happened to you from Wetherby disaster in 2009

[Delboy]

Do the same thing, get the same results = Lose half them and stop the rest this year, lose half them and stop the rest next year. I started with 56 ybs, OTTER 1 47/49, OTTER2 43/45, HEXHAM 46/51, SEDGEFIELD 37/37, OTTER3 23/27 TOTAL 196/209 SENT.You can look back to last year and see my returns were similar, my system is same as most with good returns, fitness, health and then send the fkers and then you can breed off them.

 

 

Hexham 47/51 just got one the now

[gulkie]

That race you refer to was one of those freak races, we still don't know what the cause was that day. Every so many years we are going to experience this type of race.

 

Maybe as Alf suggested already, we should have 8 races, possibly 3 races from Otterburn, 3 races from 120 miles followed by 2 races from 150 + miles this way you pigeons can be well educated without all your eggs being in the one basket as which happened to you from Wetherby disaster in 2009

that's all right Gareth till the weather puts a spanner in the works then

its back to Kelso sorry otterburn

[VMS]

If i was going to the YBN i would have liked Thirsk as preparation and sympathize with the fanciers that have been denied a very important preparation race for the YBN.But outwith that i am happy to have them out of 120miles.

[robbiedoo.]

If i was going to the YBN i would have liked Thirsk as preparation and sympathize with the fanciers that have been denied a very important preparation race for the YBN.But outwith that i am happy to have them out of 120miles.

 

if i decide to sent to the ybn my doos will go from 132mile providing we get a race this weekend to 353 mile leicester a 221 mile o a jump :unsure: :unsure:

[jonl6280]

heard budgie and king billy not racing this week!

[HOMER49]

i thought young birds were education education education

so after 4/5 races i stopped mine due to heavy moult now if they go down like snaw aff i dyke i will have learned a lesson

i would rather take a chance with a yearling in better feather condition ,fit and motivated and see where i get too

 

Hi Frank

Spot on Jacky Mac my 2007 1st west section SNFC HAD 1 YB

race

But then its racing pigeons I keep not homing pigeons

Cheers

Homer 49

[nogin]

Hi Frank

Spot on Jacky Mac my 2007 1st west section SNFC HAD 1 YB

race

But then its racing pigeons I keep not homing pigeons

Cheers

Homer 49

 

WELL SAID HOMER49 I HOPE BIG BAMBY IS READING :emoticon-0123-party:

[Delboy]

Hi Frank

Spot on Jacky Mac my 2007 1st west section SNFC HAD 1 YB

race

But then its racing pigeons I keep not homing pigeons

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

If you would read the full thread Alex, I said it is ok to put ybs by if they are bred from stock that have bred generations of winners.The problem is, people dont test birds that have a question mark over them and then breed from them the next year.

[ALF]

If you would read the full thread Alex, I said it is ok to put ybs by if they are bred from stock that have bred generations of winners.The problem is, people dont test birds that have a question mark over them and then breed from them the next year.

 

funilly enough derek i have hardly bred aff a doo that isnae aff doos that have been tested and i have 10 yb's in or nearly oot the nest the noo " from the cock i timed in ypres paired to the mother of the doo i timed in tours a pair o belters they are and i gave john quinn the last pair of them and they have all been singled reared i also have a pair in the nest aff teh hen i timed fae tours paired to her half brother same mother but his father was a g/s of 2nd open tours also a young cock in the nest off a son of john quinns section winner fae ypres paired to a g/d staurt mullans national winner when her son was paired to a daughter of dennis dalls gold award hen so yes derek we are breeding aff sh** so if they are what you call sh** i will glady take more of them anytime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

chees Alan

[Delboy]

funilly enough derek i have hardly bred aff a doo that isnae aff doos that have been tested and i have 10 yb's in or nearly oot the nest the noo " from the cock i timed in ypres paired to the mother of the doo i timed in tours a pair o belters they are and i gave john quinn the last pair of them and they have all been singled reared i also have a pair in the nest aff teh hen i timed fae tours paired to her half brother same mother but his father was a g/s of 2nd open tours also a young cock in the nest off a son of john quinns section winner fae ypres paired to a g/d staurt mullans national winner when her son was paired to a daughter of dennis dalls gold award hen so yes derek we are breeding aff sh** so if they are what you call sh** i will glady take more of them anytime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

chees Alan

 

 

Have all them stock pigeons bred decent birds before??? thats what im saying, they may well be crap at breeding and until they are tested, who knows.

[Delboy]

If you would read the full thread Alex, I said it is ok to put ybs by if they are bred from stock that have bred generations of winners.The problem is, people dont test birds that have a question mark over them and then breed from them the next year.

 

 

Stock that have bred winners, not winners themselves.Ive had plenty of birds that can score at national level and couldnt breed a *expletive removed* thing.How did I find that out, test them.

[ALF]

Have all them stock pigeons bred decent birds before??? thats what im saying, they may well be crap at breeding and until they are tested, who knows.

 

they urnae all stock pigeons

[HOMER49]

they urane all stock pigeons :e

 

Hi

Thats a cracker

Cheers

Homer 49