REDROCKET Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 three times the birds have been out three times hit with the hawk although sick of this the speed of this and its tackticksare amazing after it made an attack and missed it flew about 2ft off the grd up into the woods to the west then within seconds it was coming from the fn east the pigeons must have been mizmerized with this as there was no way they new which way the next attack was coming from it eventually caught a wee red hen which is now safe in the loft but the hawk spent half an hour searching high and low for its kill unfortunately we're one bird down at the last count.
lenton1163 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 sorry to here that redrocket don't let it get you down
Leroy Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 im having the same problem. im sure my resident sparrowhawk can hear the birds being let out. next thing, its in the flock and the birds are off. ive been lucky so far. even standing out in the middle of the birds doesnt work. the hawk has no fear of people.
gordi.b Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 got the same today mate , birds hav,nt been out for weeks , out five minutes and it had one . managed a rescue though , but it will be back, just declared war on it.
Guest IB Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 My sympathies are with fanciers faced with these problems. I note that the attacks on this thread are on birds that have been locked up over the winter. I'm told the hen sparrowhawk is bad at this time of year hunting to build herself up before she goes down on eggs, so its already a bad time. Mine haven't been out as often as I'd like over the winter (weather)- usually weekends only - but yesterday & today I've been leaving them out for a few hours each day, keeping a watchful eye on things while they're out and watching that they are watching too.
Blue Chequer Pied Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Just been hit today by the most persistant sparrowhawk I have ever come across. It took a yearling cock out of the sky as they were coming in to land, took it into my neighbours garden. I chased it off and it hit it again taking it into another garden. Again chased it off and managed to get the cock into the loft. The rest of the brds flew for ages and one was missing but it joined them about 20 mins later. The 5 cocks that were out flew for ages the the b*stard of a thing hit them in the sky and took another yearling cock in the next street. Despite being mobbed by 4 crows it never flinched and was chased by a guy in the next street. Took me about an hour to get the other 4 in. Out of my team of 8 yearling cocks I now have 2 that are badly damaged.I have seen a lot of sparrowhawks in my time but this one seems to have adaptedits hunting style. There is absolutely no fear of humans. I think that these birds are so common that their normal food supply is not sustaining them and they are adapting to suit.I took 12 youngbirds back from Belgium last week and there is no way I can let them out, they would be like lambs to the slaughter
just ask me Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 they are worse than a falcon to have a around the place
Guest bluemorning Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 guys,the female spar needs to put on nearly a third of its body weight for breeding.we have had a lot of rainfall in yorkshire and birds of prey dont hunt in rain,but once drird off they will be hungry.spars have a fast metabalisum so when really long periods of rain occur keep your birds in for a couple of hours give the hawk time to make a kill.ive said before try not to let your birds out at the same time each day as she will soon learn what time to come visiting you.always check the sky to make sure that one is not quartering high up if you see a spar wait while it clears.if you are attacked by ambush from trees etc throw a stick into them if poss,spars and gos hawks shy birds and most of the time and will give us a wide birth but if they have not fed for a good few hours linked to a high metabolic rate hunger will force them to take a chance or two.but also there are execptions to the rule.the female will nesting in a month or so and will not be much of a problem for a few months while rearing chicks as the male provides food only when the chicks are half grown will she start to hunt again. good luck hope it helps you
knoxjn Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 let my cocks out today three back in three on roof six missing lost a hen last week very close to the end right now have been hammered for the last couple of years it just seems a waste of time money and effort and you can do nothing about it its not right
REDROCKET Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Posted February 27, 2011 had our hens out today again after being out for a while they lifted off the loft and flew round the loft about 100/150m up we were watching them i thought this unusual at that hieght after a minute or so we saw this thing dropping like a stone a sparrow hawk it missed again birds flew about for another 10 mins then into the loft all safe this must be nesting close by i think just up the field a bit there's whats left of a magpie.
Guest IB Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 had our hens out today again after being out for a while they lifted off the loft and flew round the loft about 100/150m up we were watching them i thought this unusual at that hieght after a minute or so we saw this thing dropping like a stone a sparrow hawk it missed again birds flew about for another 10 mins then into the loft all safe this must be nesting close by i think just up the field a bit there's whats left of a magpie. That sounds awfy like a peregrine to me?
eastcoaster Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 my opinion on this ! why don`t every body do as bilco and co have been telling us with some late breds each year ,or why don`t we all use the wormer on the back of the neck (forgotten it`s name ) that is legal but the hawks are alergic to it , and why do we care if we get caught protecting our birds from these bistards, the public don`t and never will care about our pigeons ,the polititions never will care about our pigeons , the the arseholes that call themselves the RSPB are not nor ever will be interested in our pigeons , look what happened with the fox it`s now free to roam our streets and attack children and pets and has now no predetor because they stopped the hunt`s .do as i will do sort it yourself and fook the law . jmo
tiger Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 That sounds awfy like a peregrine to me? would agree with you ian sounds like percy
sammy Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 my opinion on this ! why don`t every body do as bilco and co have been telling us with some late breds each year ,or why don`t we all use the wormer on the back of the neck (forgotten it`s name ) that is legal but the hawks are alergic to it , and why do we care if we get caught protecting our birds from these bistards, the public don`t and never will care about our pigeons ,the polititions never will care about our pigeons , the the arseholes that call themselves the RSPB are not nor ever will be interested in our pigeons , look what happened with the fox it`s now free to roam our streets and attack children and pets and has now no predetor because they stopped the hunt`s .do as i will do sort it yourself and fook the law . jmo well said that man :emoticon-0137-clapping:
geordie1234 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 my opinion on this ! why don`t every body do as bilco and co have been telling us with some late breds each year ,or why don`t we all use the wormer on the back of the neck (forgotten it`s name ) that is legal but the hawks are alergic to it , and why do we care if we get caught protecting our birds from these bistards, the public don`t and never will care about our pigeons ,the polititions never will care about our pigeons , the the arseholes that call themselves the RSPB are not nor ever will be interested in our pigeons , look what happened with the fox it`s now free to roam our streets and attack children and pets and has now no predetor because they stopped the hunt`s .do as i will do sort it yourself and fook the law . jmo Well said mate i would love to help sort it out but dnt know how to
REDROCKET Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Posted February 27, 2011 i agree with the percy bit but i can assure you it was the sparrow hawk it was 30 feet above the loft we got a good look at it expletive removed* s*ke dont tell me ive got the 2 off them if thats the case im going to have to relocate both of these amazing animals hopfully next weekend.
jonl6280 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 i agree with the percy bit but i can assure you it was the sparrow hawk it was 30 feet above the loft we got a good look at it expletive removed* s*ke dont tell me ive got the 2 off them if thats the case im going to have to relocate both of these amazing animals hopfully next weekend. saw the same about 12.30 the day with 2 crows howding it , went to get the kodak for a nice picture and it was gone
REDROCKET Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Posted February 27, 2011 i wonder if its the same hawk john if not gulkie must be getting hit with the same one as me as i've seen it heading his way like a rocket from my lofts although hope not (have you seen much of it wullie)
gordi.b Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 ggot chased by hawk today , my hens were in the sky for about 90 mins they just wouldn,t land ,when they did every slight movement sent them off again.solution is pending||||
tiger Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 i agree with the percy bit but i can assure you it was the sparrow hawk it was 30 feet above the loft we got a good look at it expletive removed* s*ke dont tell me ive got the 2 off them if thats the case im going to have to relocate both of these amazing animals hopfully next weekend. best of luck mate
Roland Posted February 27, 2011 Report Posted February 27, 2011 Won't care what sort it is... with Rhubard Juice, or salt in lard on them, they won't ever come back.Mind I do like the Canaries on twigs behing Glass.... but have to be careful when you pick them up that your foot does stand on it's head like. Nah they don't even an head ache.
Guest bluemorning Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 i agree with the percy bit but i can assure you it was the sparrow hawk it was 30 feet above the loft we got a good look at it expletive removed* s*ke dont tell me ive got the 2 off them if thats the case im going to have to relocate both of these amazing animals hopfully next weekend. check sky before you let birds out,if your birds are flying and a spar drifts in high up your birds will be aware of it and will often fly up to the same pitch as the spar, also they will circle the bugger as well,our birds know that once the advantage of hight is removed they have every chance of evading an attack,thats why you must scan the sky before releasing any birds,if you dont and the spar is close it then has the advantage it needs.if its a percy and you have had no previous trouble with them it may be a bird passing through last years young bird etc keep them in it will bugger off with a bit of luck unless you have a suitable nest site nearby which it may claim if there are no resident pair,but percy will be heading back to nest sites now pairs usally split after breeding but meet up throught the winter months.hope things go ok lads best of luck
just ask me Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 my opinion on this ! why don`t every body do as bilco and co have been telling us with some late breds each year ,or why don`t we all use the wormer on the back of the neck (forgotten it`s name ) that is legal but the hawks are alergic to it , and why do we care if we get caught protecting our birds from these bistards, the public don`t and never will care about our pigeons ,the polititions never will care about our pigeons , the the arseholes that call themselves the RSPB are not nor ever will be interested in our pigeons , look what happened with the fox it`s now free to roam our streets and attack children and pets and has now no predetor because they stopped the hunt`s .do as i will do sort it yourself and fook the law . jmo this does noting only worm hawks no one has given me any other proof to say other wise this will only worm falcons
gulkie Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 i wonder if its the same hawk john if not gulkie must be getting hit with the same one as me as i've seen it heading his way like a rocket from my lofts although hope not (have you seen much of it wullie)Steve had them out for the first time this week between 1 and 2 and both of them appearedbut I will keep the coda k handy.
kev01293 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 totally understand eastcoaster when he says that we have to sort it ourselves,we all have this problem year after year with bops and we all moan about it but do nothing,what we need is to start organising protests and all of us writing to the papers highlighting the problem but it never happens, with all the money the rpra makes they can afford to elect somebody to fight our cause and get tv/press coverage,if we dont do something soon we wont have a sport left, kev
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