duncandoo Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 one big club has got to be better than several small clubs just look at the belgian races with tens of thousands of birds in there nationals
Guest stb- Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 We're members of 4 national clubs And the choice is your own and quite rightly so
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 you are missing the point here , as you say its a demand for inland nats and its the members that vote correct , by having the inland national the national has opened up to a load of members who are not interested in 500ml plus channell racing at all. they like the middle distance racing and it shows by the entries , they are all members and entitled to vote but the thing is they are now out numbering the guys that want to go to the channel races . these guys may go to the agm and vote for another inland national ??and you may eventually find that there votes are a lot more than the distance minded fanciers in the near future , having the inland nats has brought in a lot off none distance minded fanciers which the tradition of the snfc was not about, it was to promote cross channel racing . the way its going as most feds dont have there own coast race the first uns will be leicester and the gold cup will be bovingdon . Tail could be waggin the dug shortly Very good points STB
Guest IB Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 you are missing the point here , as you say its a demand for inland nats and its the members that vote correct , by having the inland national the national has opened up to a load of members who are not interested in 500ml plus channell racing at all. they like the middle distance racing and it shows by the entries , they are all members and entitled to vote but the thing is they are now out numbering the guys that want to go to the channel races . these guys may go to the agm and vote for another inland national ??and you may eventually find that there votes are a lot more than the distance minded fanciers in the near future , having the inland nats has brought in a lot off none distance minded fanciers which the tradition of the snfc was not about, it was to promote cross channel racing . the way its going as most feds dont have there own coast race the first uns will be leicester and the gold cup will be bovingdon . Tail could be waggin the dug shortly The point is that SNFC has to cater for all, not just one group. I've been to recent AGMs where distance-minded members have suggested dropping inland nationals. If they don't want to fly them then why try to deprive other members of a race they obviously enjoy sending to? I recall a thread a few years back on this forum suggesting that there should be a National 200 mile 'sprinter' race into Scotland. The concensus on the thread was there was a demand for it and it didn't really matter if it was run by a new club or run by an existing National club. I think it already happens in England and I don't think it has any affect on these club's distance races. Provided the club finances remain sound, I don't see anything wrong with 2 Inland and 4 Channel races, if that's what the members want & vote for.
ALF Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 BEEN WATCHING THIS TREAD FAE IT STARTED AND DECIDED EARLY DOORS I WASNAE GOING TO THE INLAND RACES AS I DIDNAE HAVE ENOUGH DOOS FOR THEM :( BUT IN THE END I SENT 3 TAE EASTBOURNE AND GOT PUMPED NO A DOO HAME YET :( BUT 3 OOT O 4 FAE REIMS BUT AM STILL NO SURE ON HOW TO FIX THE SNFC A LOT OF PEEPS WI A LOT TO SAY BUT I HAVE BEEN TO THE LAST 2 AGM'S AND NEVER HEARD *expletive removed* ALL ABOUT IT SO ME THINKS IT'S TIME TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK AT THE AGM NOT OAN HERE
dal2 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 The point is that SNFC has to cater for all, not just one group. I've been to recent AGMs where distance-minded members have suggested dropping inland nationals. If they don't want to fly them then why try to deprive other members of a race they obviously enjoy sending to? I recall a thread a few years back on this forum suggesting that there should be a National 200 mile 'sprinter' race into Scotland. The concensus on the thread was there was a demand for it and it didn't really matter if it was run by a new club or run by an existing National club. I think it already happens in England and I don't think it has any affect on these club's distance races. Provided the club finances remain sound, I don't see anything wrong with 2 Inland and 4 Channel races, if that's what the members want & vote for. IB The point aboot the nats is that some members are not likin the chop un change. If we are gan tae race frae the east then the solway fed has tae gan east so were no racin yin wae half the year frae east then another for the remainder. SPRINTERS: The threads that ive read on here concernin the south and their ability frae the distance makes me wonder wot kind o race points we would have tae race frae! We already have a split,however small, so a sprinter race might completely knacker the south.Cheers stevenThere are many a DISTANCE fancier in the south
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Why cant the SNFC hold there meetings somewhere, like more centralised so that all who is members of the mighty SNFC can attend then, i dont see why they cant doo this, because there is plenty owe halls that could hold the SNFC members. Then you would get a better turn oot, as more guys from various areas would turn up and vote, JMO.
Guest stb- Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 The point is that SNFC has to cater for all, not just one group. I've been to recent AGMs where distance-minded members have suggested dropping inland nationals. If they don't want to fly them then why try to deprive other members of a race they obviously enjoy sending to? I recall a thread a few years back on this forum suggesting that there should be a National 200 mile 'sprinter' race into Scotland. The concensus on the thread was there was a demand for it and it didn't really matter if it was run by a new club or run by an existing National club. I think it already happens in England and I don't think it has any affect on these club's distance races. Provided the club finances remain sound, I don't see anything wrong with 2 Inland and 4 Channel races, if that's what the members want & vote for.yes weel they should just be left wae there inland sprint nationals and the S N F C sould be for channel racing only which it was created for , 2 inland nationals and there is nae birds left for 4 channel races now , get the inland back to the clubs feds and combines etc and leave the distance to the SNFC
ALF Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Why cant the SNFC hold there meetings somewhere, like more centralised so that all who is members of the mighty SNFC can attend then, i dont see why they cant doo this, because there is plenty owe halls that could hold the SNFC members. Then you would get a better turn oot, as more guys from various areas would turn up and vote, JMO. GET TO THE AGM AND SAY WHAT YOU THINK AS THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN ;)
Guest stb- Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Why cant the SNFC hold there meetings somewhere, like more centralised so that all who is members of the mighty SNFC can attend then, i dont see why they cant doo this, because there is plenty owe halls that could hold the SNFC members. Then you would get a better turn oot, as more guys from various areas would turn up and vote, JMO. Dougie is it not quite central the now
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 GET TO THE AGM AND SAY WHAT YOU THINK AS THAT IS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN ;) My point is Alan, if the SNFC was to hold the meeting more centralised, then you would get more people to vote on these things.
ALF Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Dougie is it not quite central the now NO REALLY RAB AS IT IS ONLY 20 MINS AWAY FAE ME SO THATS NO REALLY CENTRAL TAE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS IT NOO?????? My point is Alan, if the SNFC was to hold the meeting more centralised, then you would get more people to vote on these things. THAT WAS THE HALE POINT OF MA POST YA DAFTY :P :P
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Dougie is it not quite central the now Are you haveing a LAUGH, what about the guys from the North, think about all in the SNFC, not just the locals Bobe, and you no where am comeing from,
dal2 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Tae be honest alan, And I'll probs get crucified for sayin this, but if the SNFC meetin was held in Moffat then a poor turnoot frae the south might still happen. Doon here we still expect that cos we are so few that we can dae no good wherever the meetin is. Maybe a postal vote per loft may help?
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Tae be honest alan, And I'll probs get crucified for sayin this, but if the SNFC meetin was held in Moffat then a poor turnoot frae the south might still happen. Doon here we still expect that cos we are so few that we can dae no good wherever the meetin is. Maybe a postal vote per loft may help? Well that would be fine, i have just been a member owe the mighty SNFC for 2 years and mentioned that to the auld timers, shot doon right away, what for, its in there constituation, ave never heard so much fecking rubbish in awe ma days, Postal vote for all SNFC members, end off.
JADE Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Are you haveing a LAUGH, what about the guys from the North, think about all in the SNFC, not just the locals Bobe, and you no where am comeing from, where would you suggest would be central. about 75% of members wouldnt go if it was in their own living room
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 where would you suggest would be central. about 75% of members wouldnt go if it was in their own living room Only to be fair on all getting there and haveing there say on what goes on, you have to be fair with all, as they are members and pay there way.
Guest IB Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 IB The point aboot the nats is that some members are not likin the chop un change. If we are gan tae race frae the east then the solway fed has tae gan east so were no racin yin wae half the year frae east then another for the remainder. SPRINTERS: The threads that ive read on here concernin the south and their ability frae the distance makes me wonder wot kind o race points we would have tae race frae! We already have a split,however small, so a sprinter race might completely knacker the south.Cheers stevenThere are many a DISTANCE fancier in the south I've only been an SNFC member a few years, but in that time the route has never changed, only some of the race points. I'm not a Sprint person myself, and I wasn't suggesting SNFC run one, only pointing out that there were some on the forum who felt there was a demand for it. If that demand was picked up by SNFC I probably wouldn't be sending, but I would not vote against the race. I have no axe to grind with South Section or the fanciers in it, and yes I agree there are a lot of distance fanciers there, you only need to look at the results to see that.
Guest stb- Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Are you haveing a LAUGH, what about the guys from the North, think about all in the SNFC, not just the locals Bobe, and you no where am comeing from, dougie its aboot the same difference fae greetna as it is fae abeerdeen etc its aboot the same fae coldingham as it is fae south ayrshire in the west , look at a map and its bang on the middle of scotland . where would you say central was to have it ??
ALF Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 TO BE HONEST I HATE TO MISS A MEETING OF ANY CLUB I AM IN AND IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY I LIKE TO MAKE SURE MY POINT IS PUT ACCROSS
dal2 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Woz it no in times gone by that you marked yer sheet from the first channel race as tae where you wanted the gold cup?
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 dougie its aboot the same difference fae greetna as it is fae abeerdeen etc its aboot the same fae coldingham as it is fae south ayrshire in the west , look at a map and its bang on the middle of scotland . where would you say central was to have it ?? Bobe when a talk aboot the guys up North, am no only talking about the guys from Eberdeen, what aboot the guys further North, they are members as well of the mighty SNFC, i dont no where the right place is to have the meeting, all am saying is to have it more central so all can attend if wish be, Ma map is oot in the hut, i will have a look the morra,
robbiedoo. Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 Are you haveing a LAUGH, what about the guys from the North, think about all in the SNFC, not just the locals Bobe, and you no where am comeing from, the best post yet not a squeak from anyone from the north . from looking at this thread from a nutral point its seems that its the overfly thats determing the race points . like cem says why not have the agm in the likes of dundee then we would get some of the north fanceirs going to it . as for race points i will race from anywhere i,m personaly not realy bothered you,se can squabble amongst yourselfs the old school in the club i,m in all they speak about is the rennes weekend it was the race they all looked forward to why did we change .i for one enjoy the inland nationals but why dont we just have the one from eastnourne and have it after the gold cup race this may push the birdage up for it as some fanceirs are losing there doos they intend to send across the channel at the inland nationals .jmo
cemetary Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 the best post yet not a squeak from anyone from the north . from looking at this thread from a nutral point its seems that its the overfly thats determing the race points . like cem says why not have the agm in the likes of dundee then we would get some of the north fanceirs going to it . as for race points i will race from anywhere i,m personaly not realy bothered you,se can squabble amongst yourselfs the old school in the club i,m in all they speak about is the rennes weekend it was the race they all looked forward to why did we change .i for one enjoy the inland nationals but why dont we just have the one from eastnourne and have it after the gold cup race this may push the birdage up for it as some fanceirs are losing there doos they intend to send across the channel at the inland nationals .jmo No be allowed Robbie, too far for the west guys ti travel from, but i see yir point mate,
Guest stb- Posted July 16, 2010 Report Posted July 16, 2010 robbie how far is it fae you to dundee ??
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