Samonelle

[ron123]

I HAVE A FEW PIGEON IN MY LOFT SHOWING SIGNS OF SAMONELLE.YOUNG BORD DEFORMED LEG,BIRD WITH LUMP ON WING CANT FLY,YOUNG IN NEST NOT GROWING AFTER A WK OLD I AM STARTING OUT THIS YEAR AND HAD TO PUT AT LEAST 10 YOUNG BIN THIS WEEK ALONE WITH ABOVE SYMTEMS.I WOULD BE GREATFUL FOR ANY ADVISE ABOUT SAMONELLE CAN IT BE CURED I WAS TOLD IT CANT IS THIS TRUE HAVE TWO CRACKING YOUNG BIRDS WITH THIS WING PROBLEM CANT FLY PROPERLY. O A FRIEND TOLD ME PIGEONS HAVE THIS DISEASE.

[REDCHEQHEN]

Some reckon it can be - some reckon it can't

But if you are just starting out you don't need this type of problem, what you need is disease free stock and to make sure your loft is secure from vermin - and you need to disinfect your loft well

 

 

Have a look at this site

 

http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/symptoms/index.php

[Guest bigda]

think you problem is not just salmonellae, i think you have para have the birds been jagged as yet

[greenlands]

I don't want to seem hard or dishearten you,but just my opinion and this is honest,bin them.I think I had it about four years ago ,they've been rubbish since.I know it's a hard discision mate and the one that looks the best in your loft is probably the carrier.

Lindsay

[ron123]

I don't want to seem hard or dishearten you,but just my opinion and this is honest,bin them.I think I had it about four years ago ,they've been rubbish since.I know it's a hard discision mate and the one that looks the best in your loft is probably the carrier.

Lindsay

 

 

thanks for your advise but cant bin all of them just cant

[Roland]

Well, even if you seperate and keep droppings apart from each other. Even if you take the birds down - all at once - to an good Avian Vet- you have no, or very little chance to say the least of knowing. Personally, post mortem is the route I would advise. Taken to a Very good Avian Vet.

Believe you, believe me, it takes some getting shot of.

And as Greenlands says, the carriers are good enough to win in the show pens. Handled or through the wires.

Maybe a good honest expierenced fancier in the club will take a deckers. After disenfecting his feet.

So sorry to hear this. But to be honest, you know you have problems big time.... and there aren't no magic wands on any site.

[Guest joshdonlan]

if your loosing lots of birds you need some medication, as a last resort i think it may have to be baytril, because even if you do get them tested, it maybe too late. JMO though, but act soon before its too late.

[dal2]

if your loosing lots of birds you need some medication, as a last resort i think it may have to be baytril, because even if you do get them tested, it maybe too late. JMO though, but act soon before its too late.

 

Had salmonella in 93 killed the lot after tryin allsorts. Bought new stock at great expense and started again. BEST DECISION MADE

ps loads of SNFC tickets and fed toppers got necked.

Cheers Steven

[fletch]

Had salmonella in 93 killed the lot after tryin allsorts. Bought new stock at great expense and started again. BEST DECISION MADE

ps loads of SNFC tickets and fed toppers got necked.

Cheers Steven

 

 

 

my dad did the same in 93 had to put some crackers in the bin as they recon that the old birds carry it and always pass it on to there ybs,

so decided to cull the lot and start again,

and as same as you it worked for the better,

sorry to say mate but would kill the lot and start again

[Guest stb-]

Had salmonella in 93 killed the lot after tryin allsorts. Bought new stock at great expense and started again. BEST DECISION MADE

ps loads of SNFC tickets and fed toppers got necked.

Cheers Steven

NOT BEEN FUNNY MATE BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THE BIRDS YOU BRING IN DOO

 

ARE NOT CARRIERS ASWELL , AS ITS SUPPOSED TO BE RIFE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY NOWADAYS

[Guest mick bowler]

You need to see a vet and get them tested, the vet should prescribe Amoxicillin, min of 10 days and can be taken to 21 days. May not cure the worse ones, but it does work.

[dal2]

NOT BEEN FUNNY MATE BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THE BIRDS YOU BRING IN DOO

 

ARE NOT CARRIERS ASWELL , AS ITS SUPPOSED TO BE RIFE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY NOWADAYS

 

Ye canny be sure mate but when you get up each morning tae find one or two o yer best deed then cull seems the kindest option for both fancier and doo. Hopefully new stock is clear of any probs.

Cheers Steven

[dal2]

Sorry just to add that am no tellin this fancier tae cull his doos just gien him ny experience. The decision is his allbeit a hard yin.

Cheers steven

[Tony C]

There's a few things that can cause wing lameness/swollen joints so you must get them tested before you decide your course of actions.

 

If the results were to confirm Paratyphoid/Salmonella I would dispose of all pigeons showing signs of it, their parents and any other pigeons that came from the same source. Those that are left I would train hard and race hard, take note of pigeons that struggle under this regime and dispose along with their parents.

 

You are going to have to be very harsh with your pigeons I'm afraid, if not your enjoyment will be very limited.

 

 

[Guest IB]

Right now you are guessing what is wrong with your pigeons. Only one place can tell you for definite what is causing the illness and that is a laboratory specialising in pathogen culture. Vets have links with these labs, and you might want to try contacting an avian vet (one who specialises in birds) and give him a live sick bird to be sacrificed for lab tests.

 

The one thing that strikes me as odd about it being salmonella is the time of year. I understood that it was a winter disease, peaking January February and March. The other thing is that other diseases have similar symptoms to yours, so it could be something else. If you can afford it, vet + lab tests are the way to go, might be cheaper in the long run.

[ron123]

thanks to everyone for your advise will get down to things tomor decision time

[REDCHEQHEN]

Had cultures done on mine last week (negative) by an avian vet - the charge was £12 - for all you peeps who think it might be expensive

 

there was no consultation fee

[Diamond dave]

Had cultures done on mine last week (negative) by an avian vet - the charge was £12 - for all you peeps who think it might be expensive

 

there was no consultation fee

 

Hi Red Chequer - can you tell us where to go for this test, give us an address or phone number.......?

 

Thanks in advance

 

D.D.