Hit Again

[Guest pied 09]

i tossed 33 young uns yesterday between 5-10 mile. 10 back yesterday 2 this morning when i woke up. 2 through today all ok. now i know the reason they took so long. just had another to the roof rip in the wing and chest again. im still waiting on half my team cuz of this now.

[Guest spin cycle]

bad luck...was it their first trainer ?

[cemetary]

Hope they rturn up for you mate, its getting worse with them bloody hawks,

[boxer]

had my 2nd toss earlier from 2 mile 8 missing from 30 not a happy bunny

[greenlands]

It's getting worse lads,i'm dreading starting to train,it's bad enough round the loft.Hope they turn in for you mate.

Lindsay

[rasbull]

If you are unlucky enough to get hit on the first training toss then I reckon losses will be massive. If you are lucky enough to get them a good few then you have a better chance of more making it home when you do get hit. Just got to keep fingers crossed I guess!

[Guest bakes]

simulair thing happen to us yesturday fartherin law took our ybs for there second toss from 20 miles first toss they had all back in 40 minutes took them same place again told misses birds up got back home had 3 birds back then came in ones and two's threwout the day 8pm last night had 25 out of the 30 back this morning went down to lofts had 4 trying to get back into loft via sputnik one ripped to sh** neck gone under wing gone missing one an chequer old pob have been amongst them again bird that was hawked was to far gone died even though i tried to sort it out so dropped 2 already and thats before the training starts going proper looks like another year of being hit hard heard of a lad up road from me had his ybs out other day 60 ybs goshawk straight in amongst them hes got 10 back not a sight or feather of them really feel for the bloke pob ever were around my way goshawks,pergrines,sparrowhawks on the door step getting beyond joke alright saying well sort them out theres always others waiting to move on in theres only so much a fancier can take before hanging there boots up only way there will put a stop to pob attacks is by a national cull wonce and for all and even then there still going to be anbundance of pob in some areas were fighting a looseing battle everytime.

[boxer]

simulair thing happen to us yesturday fartherin law took our ybs for there second toss from 20 miles first toss they had all back in 40 minutes took them same place again told misses birds up got back home had 3 birds back then came in ones and two's threwout the day 8pm last night had 25 out of the 30 back this morning went down to lofts had 4 trying to get back into loft via sputnik one ripped to sh** neck gone under wing gone missing one an chequer old pob have been amongst them again bird that was hawked was to far gone died even though i tried to sort it out so dropped 2 already and thats before the training starts going proper looks like another year of being hit hard heard of a lad up road from me had his ybs out other day 60 ybs goshawk straight in amongst them hes got 10 back not a sight or feather of them really feel for the bloke pob ever were around my way goshawks,pergrines,sparrowhawks on the door step getting beyond joke alright saying well sort them out theres always others waiting to move on in theres only so much a fancier can take before hanging there boots up only way there will put a stop to pob attacks is by a national cull wonce and for all and even then there still going to be anbundance of pob in some areas were fighting a looseing battle everytime.

 

totally agree with you m8

[boxer]

JUST BEEN TO THE LOFT 6 BACK 2 TO GO [bIT HAPPIER NOW]

[gagums]

ive bin luky so far mate but few boys geting a hideing

[Guest stb-]

HAD MY 75 YOUNG BIRDS OUT TODAY SOME VERY YOUNG AND JUST FLYING UP TO LOFT ROOF ETC , FKN SPARR HEN ATTAKED EM ANDTHEY WERE ALL U IN HEAVENS MILES UP THAT WAS AT 12 TODAY , WHEN WENT TO BOVINGDON MARKING AT 4.30 ONLY HAD 30 BACK , BUT WHEN I GOT HOME AT SEVEN 7 TONIGHT ALL WERE IN LOFT , LUCKY I THINKS

[boxer]

ive bin luky so far mate but few boys geting a hideing

 

how far up the road with them are you m8

[Shortcut Lofts]

I have three tosses over and have lost 2 each toss. Second toss i had 42 up and all came broken up throughout the day. Unfortunatley hawks are everywhere and i think it is pot luck when you liberate and you have got to hope they get a clean run home. Once you get 4-6 tosses things normally settle down with the birds catching on that they have to get home quickly.

 

P.S I hope all the young missing on this thread work in, they somtimes surprise you. Eamon

[Guest mick bowler]

Without sounding too harsh, its hardly surprising you lads are getting hit. These birds are in the peak of their breeding season with the young at their most demanding, and your filling the air with inexperienced dinners on wings. Why are people training their YBs now, what is the rush. If you are and want too then take a few "spares" and let them go first.

[Shortcut Lofts]

Without sounding too harsh, its hardly surprising you lads are getting hit. These birds are in the peak of their breeding season with the young at their most demanding, and your filling the air with inexperienced dinners on wings. Why are people training their YBs now, what is the rush. If you are and want too then take a few "spares" and let them go first.

 

Mick, i always take "Spares".

[Roland]

Fine taking 'Spares'. But like the unlucky 'Third Light' this could could have a unwarrented effect.

I, personally, would still give the 'Lard /Salt treatment to ALL my birds being released.

[Guest stb-]

LET YOUNG BIRDS OUT AT 9AM THIS MORNING SPARR HEN CAME OUT OF WOODS AT BACK AND ATTAKED EM FOR 2ND DAY RUNNING , ALL OVER THE PLACE COMMING BACK ONE AT A TIME 23 BACK SO FAR OOT 75

[Guest mick bowler]

Fine taking 'Spares'. But like the unlucky 'Third Light' this could could have a unwarrented effect.

I, personally, would still give the 'Lard /Salt treatment to ALL my birds being released.

 

 

You cannot give 100% protection to any of your birds, but all you can do is give them a bit of help and reduce the percentages.

 

Its time that all the pigeon fanciers in the british isles, started to realise that this problem affects EVERY fancier who races his birds and not just a "chosen" few. The chances are every fancier has lost birds to BOP.Its ok to send your birds and then moan or even give up, but its just another hazard pigeon fanciers have to face, along with all the others, but there are ways to help the problem. Fanciers have to change their ways and attitudes, and do their bit. Lets face it would we let our birds go just a few yards from pylons? I doubt it, but i remember well being told by an old fancier about when the electric infrastructure as we know it started to appear, fanciers had to change and so did the birds. He even said that while sending them on the train, one particular place always incurred losses. It wasnt until he went on the train he found out that in 2 directions pylons and wires were apparent.

 

Every situation with this problem is fixable, but its a case of time, patience and observation. Do your home work, and be prepared to loose a few, but thats nothing new.

 

I can also say that i for one believe that the salt/lard thing is a waste of time, i have never seen one recorded (with evidence) case that it works, and anyway why waste yopur money on salt!

[Roland]

Yep other than salt may well be better.

But salt was the very most effective means used prior to the wars. Also any and all carrion found in fields / by ways etc. was also doused well with salt. For B.O.P. are oppertunist and DO eat carrion when available.

Pain killing capsules broken down, Aspro etc. all may very well be more effective. Doesn't matter a jot as long as it is used.

But Hawks / B.O.P. don't drink water. They get their fluids from the victims blood.

But agree with Mick EVERYONE should be doing their bit! Even a little via ALL concerns would a worthwhile remedy that would quickly put this plight into reasonable prospective.

[Guest stb-]

LET YOUNG BIRDS OUT AT 9AM THIS MORNING SPARR HEN CAME OUT OF WOODS AT BACK AND ATTAKED EM FOR 2ND DAY RUNNING , ALL OVER THE PLACE COMMING BACK ONE AT A TIME 23 BACK SO FAR OOT 75

69 BACK 6 STILL MISSING

[ALF]

69 BACK 6 STILL MISSING

 

I BET YOU WOULD HAVE SETTLED FOR THAT AT 11 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING :rolleyes:

[Guest stb-]

AYE PROB WOULD HAVE ALAN THATS 2 DAYS IN A ROW WAY THE BASSA ,

 

NEVER GOT ONE BUT THEY HIT THE HEAVANS LIKE PIN DOTS AND LEGGED IT

[billt]

As long as you get them home you can't get a better training toss

[Guest stb-]

As long as you get them home you can't get a better training toss

AYE THEY LEARN A BIT DONT THEY , A LOT OF THEM VERY YOUNG THOO

 

ABOUT 6 WEEKS OLD

[boxer]

Without sounding too harsh, its hardly surprising you lads are getting hit. These birds are in the peak of their breeding season with the young at their most demanding, and your filling the air with inexperienced dinners on wings. Why are people training their YBs now, what is the rush. If you are and want too then take a few "spares" and let them go first.

 

THE REASON WE HAVE JUST STARTED IS BECAUSE OUR FIRST RACE IS IN JUST UNDER 4 WEEKS [TO EARLY] AND WITH THE WEATHER UNPREDICTABLE MAKE HAY WHILE THE SUN SHINES