europa birds are set to go sun

[pjc]

the majority on here prob don't have birds in the race, it doesn't stop them being concerned for the welfare of the birds being thrown up in poor conditions and asking sensible questions about the organisation.

If it reaches the press etc it could effect all of us!

 

Phil

[ChrisMaidment08]

yes chris around 250

 

lets see how they do one has 15 fed so far 1st club

[Ian McKay]

ian so far this thread has remained nice please lets not poke holes in rose and ruin thread

 

Sorry . But as I see it Rose is picking every hole she can find . she should read the rules as I have done

 

End of conversation

 

 

[tippler1]

what you got to remember is thay is a lot of birds missing and a lot of money up for grabs think thats why some people are the way thay are any other time most would let you know every think you wonted to know about this race thay just need time to carm down well thats what i think but am wrong alot

[Guest chrisss]

the majority on here prob don't have birds in the race, it doesn't stop them being concerned for the welfare of the birds being thrown up in poor conditions and asking sensible questions about the organisation.

If it reaches the press etc it could effect all of us!

 

Phil

 

good point that, as we speak there are approx 1000 bleeding birds, god knows where, all thanks because of what seems to me a bad judgement call by someone with one eye on the crowd and the other on the profit [and yes i hope i am wrong]

[jimmy white]

When is the close of race for this

 

i think rose ,,ill be corrected if im wrong.. its 300 ypm

[Guest tom123]

the majority on here prob don't have birds in the race, it doesn't stop them being concerned for the welfare of the birds being thrown up in poor conditions and asking sensible questions about the organisation.

If it reaches the press etc it could effect all of us!

 

Phil

 

when ready the above what effect would it have if the press got hold of the number of birds lost to date this year at fedeation level

come on this is one race on one day feds are doing it every week

[Guest chrisss]

will the close of the race be extended [sorry have not raced yet so the terms have passed me by]

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

Sorry . But as I see it Rose is picking every hole she can find . she should read the rules as I have done

 

End of conversation

yes i understand ian but i have rules as well but they dont quite work to well to benifit of owner

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

flown under rpra rules  so no

[pjc]

Tom, the difference is that, i don't beleive any fed this year has liberated 1200 birds from 300 miles and had no day birds!

Also the big difference is yet again the money involved, how many feds are racing for £30k first prize?

 

Phil

[jimmy white]

the majority on here prob don't have birds in the race, it doesn't stop them being concerned for the welfare of the birds being thrown up in poor conditions and asking sensible questions about the organisation.

If it reaches the press etc it could effect all of us!

 

Phil

 

very true,, and you can be assured if things dont change quickly tomorrow it will be in the press ,,and as usual the press will make a meal of it ,,,,,,,,,but the race is not over yet ,not  by a long chalk     so allthough we want the sun we dont have to get the sun  :-/ :-/ :-/

[HOMER49]

 

Im not sure that i would say questioning the  liberation is picking holes which i think was wrong the birds welfare was not put first   what rule covers that   Its an open forum dont think there is anywhere on here saying that you cannot post if you are not participating or it does not concern you

 

Hi Rose

Well said our feathered friends welfare was not the 1st priority

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[Ian Gill]

the majority on here prob don't have birds in the race, it doesn't stop them being concerned for the welfare of the birds being thrown up in poor conditions and asking sensible questions about the organisation.

If it reaches the press etc it could effect all of us!

 

Phil

 

Do you not think the organisers would have been busting a gut to get their camera crew buddies there?? ;)

 

There have been some very legtimate points and questions raised on this thread and rightly so given the circumstances but the responce to some has left me astounded ..I have no birds in the race though I have in the past (purely to make up the numbers in a syndicate) but tell you one thing if I had birds in it this year Id as sure as hell be asking plenty of questions to the organisers and wanting answers.

 

Is there a touch of elitism surrounding one loft races in the fact that us mere mortals are not allowed to ask or question??? Seems to me that anyone and everyone has the right to ask questions on something that might have a detrimental effect on their sport..if any of our organisations have a bad race then we have to deal with it, safe in the knowledge that 99% of the time our birds welfare has been taken into concideration and the best decision regarding a lib was made..if the press get a hold of that then we bite the bullet and deal with that to ..but for us to suffer from something that we as a sport have no control over??? Dont think so !!!!

 

Do you not think that Mr Nicholls new found celebrity from his tv show could come back to haunt him here?? The press love to fill pages these days and no doubt some animal rights people will love to get their teeth into this

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

mr nichols would not worry what peaple think of him he does things his way and thats that but is open to advice but europa his his baby his decisions at end of day this day is bad

[jimmy_bulger]

(I COULD NOT PUT IT BETTER MYSELF IAN,)but then againe who the fk are we. :-/

[rembrant2coo]

mr nichols would not worry what peaple think of him he does things his way and thats that but is open to advice but europa his his baby his decisions at end of day this day is bad

 

Its maybe his baby chris , but there was 1200 babies released to-day in edinburgh , iwas in edinburgh to-day and it was terrible weather , and mr gill has a point that your all missing the welfare of the birds no joking aside here this is a serious business

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

You can look into other items but this race has only failed for 1 reason and 1 reason only and that is the decision to liberate the pigeons, other than that the one loft races are good and do create a lot of excitment for 6 months of the year, it has great rewards with the money that is involved but with the pressure of clients and hotel booking's by customers it should not be left for 1 man to make the decision about liberation even if he is the owner of that business/loft race.

 

If this race does go ahead next year surely Mr Nicholl's would be better to install confidence in the fancy by appointing 3 race controllers who are independant of the one loft race.

 

[cemetary]

Yes your correct there Harry, the welfare of the birds is first priority here, money is second.

[cemetary]

Good point Gareth, but will it go ahead, hopefully. will wait and see what happens.

[ChrisMaidment08]

if thats what fanciers want i have no dout he will do it

[ChrisMaidment08]

the surrgestion the race should be flown then the fun but it seems from amount who attend the real fun is freee drink foood till keel over then remmber birds reverse this to flew fun celibration might wort then they could be held the planning side needs sorting

[Guest bigda]

surely its a void race now if the birds have  wing stamps on them, and phone numbers

this could cause a lot of problems in the morning with fancier's

[ChrisMaidment08]

surely its a void race now if the birds have  wing stamps on them, and phone numbers

this could cause a lot of problems in the morning with fancier's

 

well i would void it myself due to birds already in lofts on way down

[bewted]

any more updates yet !!!