winners and winners

[chris h]

Why is it that some genuine lads give you good winning pigeons and youngsters out of good winning stock for free. Then you get other wanting £350 and more for birds just as good as the one's giving free. Why is this ??. I dont think seeing prices like that would encourage youngsters into the sport just my thoughts  

[ALF]

It never bothers me in the least what people charge for there pigeons but if you think they are too dear for you then it's easy dont buy them...

[Ronnie]

To some money is everything to others happiness is ,being there own or someone else's.

And like was just said you can allways say no

[pjc]

Its life, there are givers and there are takers!

Some of us offer any spare youngsters to new starters especialy latter in the season and usualy these youngsters are the seasons last round from the stockloft. If these birds are treated right will often found a loft. Most best birds are obtained trough frienships rather than transactions!

[REDROCKET]

well glad im not in that catagory i payed over £300 for a pair of 08 birds and giving one of the first round to a gent i met on here and gooner on here will be getting one to the same value for the mac 1 swap

[chris h]

i never said I wouldnt buy them.

[blaz]

well glad im not in that catagory i payed over £300 for a pair of 08 birds and giving one of the first round to a gent i met on here and gooner on here will be getting one to the same value for the mac 1 swap

 

dont tell them whos getting it

[Guest]

Why is it that some genuine lads give you good winning pigeons and youngsters out of good winning stock for free. Then you get other wanting £350 and more for birds just as good as the one's giving free. Why is this ??. I dont think seeing prices like that would encourage youngsters into the sport just my thoughts  

 

 

summed up in one word there mate................"GENUINE"

 

[just ask me]

like i always say about prices its worth what some one will pay

[slinky slitheroe]

Why is it that some genuine lads give you good winning pigeons and youngsters out of good winning stock for free. Then you get other wanting £350 and more for birds just as good as the one's giving free. Why is this ??. I dont think seeing prices like that would encourage youngsters into the sport just my thoughts  

some people pay big money for pigeons sodont want to give ybs off them for free Ican see there point

 

[Guest G.Drysdale + son]

some people pay big money for pigeons sodont want to give ybs off them for free Ican see there point

 

Went to an auction in Blackpool this year one guy bought a pigeon for £2500 don't suppose you would get one off him for nothing.

[blaz]

i have bought birds over the years .1or 2 been good the best birds i have raced have been free from fanciers i have met . some of them pay thousands for them yet still offer you things like a matched pairs . so as you can bred your own. my rule is if i get it free and it turns out to be a good 1 then you can get free yb,s from it. if i pay a few quid for it then i would ask for about 10% of what i paid for the pair £200 =£20yb if i knew you then it would probably be nowt

[walterbmasson]

 

 

TRY AND GET A FEW BOB OFF FRED THE SHRED AFTER STEELING BILLIONS BECAUSE THERE GREEDY B....... :D :D

[chaz]

I am just setting up again and a friend of mine who is a very good flyer is gifting me a load of young birds off anything I want in his loft, some of his pigeons have cost him thousands, you can`t get a more genuine fancier than him, all he wants is to see the sport flourish money doesn`t come in to it , he gives many pigeons to breeder/buyers to help with club and fed funds as well as any other good causes, the man is a gent and a true fancier,

 

I only said to him that I was thinking of starting up again and asked his advice on a particular family I was interested in buying in to , and he said don`t worry I will sort you out, as I haven`t got room to keep a stock pen , he has also told me that there will be as many young birds as I need each year to top up my young from my racers

 

he isn`t on the internet but he knows i appreciate it and will always return the favour in any way I can

 

 

 

 

 

[alec guinness]

Why is it that some genuine lads give you good winning pigeons and youngsters out of good winning stock for free. Then you get other wanting £350 and more for birds just as good as the one's giving free. Why is this ??. I dont think seeing prices like that would encourage youngsters into the sport just my thoughts  

 

a lot of the time chris the youngsters bought from the fancier are not a patch on the gift bird,if i am asked for youngsters from proven stock or winners, in the past i have been offered  bags of feeding  which i think is a really nice gesture and will contribute to the rearing of the youngsters.   :) :)imo far too many fanciers are selling birds of inferior bloodlines,best to go local for new stock. :)

[ALF]

 

a lot of the time chris the youngsters bought from the fancier are not a patch on the gift bird,if i am asked for youngsters from proven stock or winners, in the past i have been offered  bags of feeding  which i think is a really nice gesture and will contribute to the rearing of the youngsters.   :) :)imo far too many fanciers are selling birds of inferior bloodlines,best to go local for new stock. :)

 

John any chance of some well bred y/b's mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest Owen]

Like most I have bought expensive birds that proved to be hopeless. And like most I was given a bird that was outstanding. But it was not until I realised that I have to breed my birds, that I started to do something. Every time I got interested in buying birds I found that they were brilliant. Out of this and that and the other. Well I don't know what happened to the blue blood but I saw very little of it in the mungrels I ended up with. These days, I only breed from birds that win several races or birds that have bred at least three multiple  winners. All the YBs I have bred this year are out of at least one multiple winner. Now I know that some will be duffers, but the percentage of duffers is getting less each year. My losses are less and my results are getting better all the time.

I am always prepared to give birds to people starting up and to young people especially. There are a lot of people in this area who have done really well from my birds and I am pleased for them. The big but is that I will not give more after the first time and I never give first round birds away. And lastly, all birds that I breed carry my rings so that I can see when they do well without haveing to told.

[Guest spin cycle]

Why is it that some genuine lads give you good winning pigeons and youngsters out of good winning stock for free. Then you get other wanting £350 and more for birds just as good as the one's giving free. Why is this ??. I dont think seeing prices like that would encourage youngsters into the sport just my thoughts  

 

perhaps it depends...if i spent alot of money on a pigeon i liked i might want to get ybs out amongst my friends to 'spread the risk'...so that if i lost the original there would be a good chance of 'saving the blood' ( insurance ? ) OR...i might want to recoup my outlay ( or at least some ) so sell some ybs...OR...i might take pleasure in seeing someone else do well with something i bred. i was very lucky that i benifited from the latter. i treat gift birds seriously. for instance i never give away to a third party something i breed off a gift without the original breeders permission...despite them sometimes saying that ,once gifted, its mine to do as i choose.

[alec guinness]

 

John any chance of some well bred y/b's mate ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

no probs alf.

[NW USA]

Bill Gates--Microsoft-- does not have enough money to buy one of my birds. But over the last 31 years I have given away lots and lots of pigeons--some turned out good--and--some not so good.

 

If you see him let him know he's got plenty for one of mine and I'll throw in a second for free.

[widowhooder]

THINK   U ONLY PAY WHAT U THINKS A FAIR PRICE FOR WHATS ON OFFER

[weirbridge lofts]

i think with gift birds you get no lies and probably the correct sex lol

[ALF]

 

no probs alf.

 

;) ;) ;) ;)

[Blue Chequer Pied]

I am just setting up again and a friend of mine who is a very good flyer is gifting me a load of young birds off anything I want in his loft, some of his pigeons have cost him thousands, you can`t get a more genuine fancier than him, all he wants is to see the sport flourish money doesn`t come in to it , he gives many pigeons to breeder/buyers to help with club and fed funds as well as any other good causes, the man is a gent and a true fancier,

 

I only said to him that I was thinking of starting up again and asked his advice on a particular family I was interested in buying in to , and he said don`t worry I will sort you out, as I haven`t got room to keep a stock pen , he has also told me that there will be as many young birds as I need each year to top up my young from my racers

 

he isn`t on the internet but he knows i appreciate it and will always return the favour in any way I can

 

That is what it is all about for me. To some the satisfaction of helping others is reward enough. once you get established you will be able to swap birds back with him and that will make you both feel good.

 

Good luck,

 

Paul.

 

 

 

 

 

[Delboy]

Ive bought alot of pigeons over the years and paid plenty for them. I ve helped almost everybody out in my area with ybs etc.Ill do this the first year, but some expect ybs and help every year.Thats ok , if it is kids wanting help but not grown up folk taking the pis/.Ive donated 100s of ybs to all sorts of sales and my opinion is this- the more you do for folk, the more they want and the less you are appreciated. People want everything for nothing. They want you to work your *expletive removed* off getting the best birds possible and expect you to give all the offspring away for nothing. If I am after a particular bird, then I will pay as much as I can afford for it . Why should I then be made feel bad when selling ybs from these top pigeons. There are too many begging bast.... in this sport, that can afford to put there hand in their pocket.