Referene to Duncan Mackay

[Ian McKay]

Hi Duncan

 

As soon as I receive your cheque it will be posted on here and on the P F A F board

 

Cheers

Ian

[cemetary]

cheers dougie spoken like a true gentleman

 

Thats what i am, for all who nows me.  

[dwh]

I think there is a lesson to be learnt here, when members are bidding on behalf of others/non members, that if it falls through, it,s the member that is left to take the flack and explain :-/ JMO  Worth taking this into account in future folks

 

I SEE YOUR  POINTSAPPER THEN THE MORAL OF STORY IS  DON'T BID FOR SOMEBODY ELSE UNLESS YOUR PROXY IS VALIDATED BY THE AUCTION PROMOTERS

[THE FIFER]

duncan the yb's you bid for was mine, I sent you a pm after as far as i knew you had bid for them, your first bid you put up was to me, then when the auction was over and the post put up with winners 29 (the one you bid for) was blank, as it was by pm, I asked you if it was ok to put your name on it and you agreed,not once did you tell me you were bidding for someone else, I even sent you a pm telling you that only one egg hatched but i had put them under other birds, and the main pair were on eggs again, think your answer was no problem, not once did you tell me that you were bidding for someone else, I noticed the birds hadnt been paid for, and I had a pm from someone saying you were bidding for him, this was confusing so you were there at the methilhill feeding last week and I wasnt sure what was happening regarding the birds so I mentioned that both other eggs were filled and ok, you said thats ok so I thought yes you are still interested in them, but you never mentioned to me that you were bidding for someone else, and the birds were still not paid for, I think the best thing would have been for you to have put the bidders name up, on them, if not during the bidding at leased after the bidding was finnished and i asked if it was ok to put your name up, i only asked that because some people bidding by pm dont want there name up, this would have let us know what was what,

[sapper756]

 

I SEE YOUR  POINTSAPPER THEN THE MORAL OF STORY IS  DON'T BID FOR SOMEBODY ELSE UNLESS YOUR PROXY IS VALIDATED BY THE AUCTION PROMOTERS

 

I think it,s upto each individual to make the decision whether or not to put forward bids for others, and the consequences of things going wrong :-/ JMO

[dwh]

 

I think it,s upto each individual to make the decision whether or not to put forward bids for others, and the consequences of things going wrong :-/ JMO

 

FAIR POINT SAPPER MY WAY IT WOULD SAVE MEN GETTING THEIR BACKS UP

 

 

 

 

 

 

[harky]

Well I don't know. Have done loft visits to a three other fanciers where Duncan has called and also know of a least courier that took birds for, or via him. By all accounts he seems a good genuine bloke  :-/

He certainly has bought a lot of fanciers pigeons of this and other sites, and his good lady too  :-/

So seems to me something wrong somewhere eh!  :-/

 

Got to agree with you there Roland i to have spoken to Duncan and he sounds a decent guy and have also noticed in the past he has baught a load of pigeons from the site and there has never been a problem  

[Guest bigda]

   i   take it the problem was the delay,  as its now gone 2 weeks,  and it has to go another 2 weeks to be settled   duncan  these lads dont need   the hastle  

[Fair Play]

Where would your priorities lie if your house was flooded I know where mine would after all charity begins at home and for all we know there may well be a family involved and they come first cut the man a bit of slack he says he will pay after all it's only a "pigeon" not a multi million pound takeover.

[Guest Jargre-]

just mick bowler outstanding sent check to ian for arson am i a suspect here or what

Ignore the kangaroo Court Duncan, you've made your point and should leave it at that.  Roland is spot on.  

 

 

[Guest duncan mckay]

cheers jarge mate thanks

[Guest blythy1]

i have had duncan round my house and met up with him at doncaster top bloke and thats the last thing duncan would want to give the lads hastle. its not his fault.

[Guest stb-]

DUNCAN MCKAY IS NO A BAD GUY   ;) :)

[Guest duncan mckay]

thanks for your kind words martin cheers mate

[demolition man]

one things for sure Duncan, your well known on here now mate all the best with your purchases, hope you do well with them

[Guest duncan mckay]

thanks mate

[alvagate]

duncan what about the  youngbirds you bid on for our club funds and did not pay and told me on several pm the cheq in post or meet you at blackpool

 

ian

[Guest bigda]

well he will have to answer that one to you mate,  you are  quite entitled to ask,  as you have judged the book by the backer,    he pm me, i a am not interested,   the only thing now is the heros sale is now one month held up      kanger roo  courts    are the same anywhere   pay up or shut up    bigda as it is  :-/

[Roland]

Must say, I have, and have always had mixed views regards of making anything public. Sometimes it can open a can of worms that maybe shouldn't have been opened. 'Let sleeping dogs lie and lying dogs sleep eh'!

As my post before said as such.

Of course the flip side of the coin regards persons bidding and my statement spouting -In Duncan's case for instance that wouldn't want, or accept his bids.

The flip side is of course any one with a proven bad track record, and then they wouldn't be happy if they were a bidder. Stands to reason that also obviously.

Which brings to the fore the thought, after a few Pm's of 'How would one know if not brought out into the open’?

Of course most will, and can only speak as they find  :-/

So on reflection I have to admit there is time when it should be brought to attention of any site regards 'Selling' and buying. 'Fore warned / forearmed' and all that.

Yet I do stress in my opinion, this should only happen if, and when and after private channels have been exhausted.

So again, the quicker this is sorted then better. Not only for the individuals involved and concerned, but also for the site and any future sales / auctions. J.M.O.

[Guest strapper]

if the site is to learn from  mistakes on bidding there has to be stronger guidlines for bidders.

we cannot go forward untill all avenues are covered!

i have kept out of this discussion so far but i do feel something has to be a deterrant that will work and not leave members angry has we have seen.

if the site is to be run smoothly then we need everyone to help make it run smoothly.

[sapper756]

if the site is to learn from  mistakes on bidding there has to be stronger guidlines for bidders.

we cannot go forward untill all avenues are covered!

i have kept out of this discussion so far but i do feel something has to be a deterrant that will work and not leave members angry has we have seen.

if the site is to be run smoothly then we need everyone to help make it run smoothly.

 

I think admin have enough to do without having to supervise sales that are not for the site, it,s upto the individuals who are selling to police their own sales. IMO

[Guest strapper]

 

I think admin have enough to do without having to supervise sales that are not for the site, it,s upto the individuals who are selling to police their own sales. IMO

 

ok i see your point but also they take money for us to have our private sales...so there should be a obligation to protect ALL SALES.JMO

 

 

[greenlands]

Well Duncan I don't know you mate,but you seem to have taken a lot of flack on behalf of someone else,that's what usually happens when you try to help someone and things go wrong.I would think lesson learned comes to mind,by all accounts no one really has a bad word for you, so I'll go along with that.

I hope you have a great season with your birds.

Best wishes.

Lindsay.

[sapper756]

 

ok i see your point but also they take money for us to have our private sales...so there should be a obligation to protect ALL SALES.JMO

 

 

The site is effectively the "venue" for any private sale, so if you hire a hall in a hotel to hold an auction or sale, do you expect the hotel manager to be accountable  :-/ I don,t think you will find many :-/  also if you place a sale in the Bhw, I don,t think the editors will take any responsibility :-/ But once again this is my opinion and you are entitled to yours m8

[Guest lenwadebob]

 

The site is effectively the "venue" for any private sale, so if you hire a hall in a hotel to hold an auction or sale, do you expect the hotel manager to be accountable  :-/ I don,t think you will find many :-/  also if you place a sale in the Bhw, I don,t think the editors will take any responsibility :-/ But once again this is my opinion and you are entitled to yours m8

 

This being the case, Auction are held on the public forum with the permission of Admin and therefore should be sorted on the public forum JMO