PATTY BHOY Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 next thing the seagulls will be in the loft taking the ybs and eggs.
blaz Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 next thing the seagulls will be in the loft taking the ybs and eggs. it will have to shrink it,s self and gulls have not got the bottle for that a magpie yes seagull no
cemetary Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 You will be getting an ASBO if you feed the gulls, you are not allowed to feed them, the old buddy around the corner from me got one, what alot of pesh. The old people havent dont it since. The magies are moving in, better get a trap for them next.
THE FIFER Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 the gulls and crows chase the hawks but they dont keep them away,
blaz Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 had magpie go in loft last year and take yb,s out nest
cemetary Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 They keep them away at times though Archie, better than nowt,
THE FIFER Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 They keep them away at times though Archie, better than nowt, yes agree but sometimes the crows want our birds fot themselves
cemetary Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 The haws take more of them than the crows though Archie, the crows doo keep them at bay.
swilcox Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 Its hard to say but you will get lots of knocks in this game, you just have to roll with it, if you stop and think about it, it will do ur head in.
harky Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 Have had 3 in the past fortnight struck with the hawk the last one being lastnight and its the first time i can remember in all the years my dads had pigeons that it has struck as regular as it has , now i know how it feels to lose pigeons to a hawk and not being able to do anything about it .
les Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 a couple of years ago i didnt even know what a s/hawk looked like but then they started to appear and last year i started getting hit by them but this year has been far worse than ever before,whenever i let my birds out the s/hawk just seemed to appear so my birds are now staying in the loft till the hen s/hawk starts to sit her eggs debbienot all will be siting ,some of the second round of s,hawks wont mate up ,so they will still have to eat .that is the problem 3to4 times more s,hawks in the same area because they usualy get pushed out by the pairents ,but now they have nowhere else to go because the country side is geting full up with them .
les Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 got a hawk attack 2 weeks ago got the birds back alive but at end of day we must accept they are part of nature and one of gods creatures then the best place fore them is with god [let him feed the bloody murdering *expletive removed*] ;D
DJ Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 yep many thanks for sending me that aye ready its much appreciated i dont like keeping my birds in,especially in this nice weather,but if it means the fecking hawk goes hungry then its got to be done debbie
jock3 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 just lost a yearing hen to that fecking hawk , pity was a nice hen , is it worth keeping them , pig sick
Guest IB Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 Well if any of you have been watching the recent 'Darwin' programmes on TV, you'll know any imbalance like we have here, can't and won't last forever, and without human interference either. Pigeons must learn to become 'streetwise' to raptors, has happened in the past, said before rock doves learned to live side by side in same territory as peregrines and still live to tell the tale. See it around here now, wild birds know when there is a raptor about, crows especially will harry them, and my birds seem tuned in to what is happening. Agree with others though, have experienced one strike here last year in my own garden, the pigeon (& sparrowhawk) escaped, but I was still pig-sick for weeks after that.
Guest Davy Fleming Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 To all the guys who I sent a private message to re- hawks , Remember keep in touch and let me know how you got on . Know a million % you will come back and say you were right and glad I listened to you. Cheers lads and won't be saying goodluck. because you won't need it . you are a stick on for certain success
les Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 Well if any of you have been watching the recent 'Darwin' programmes on TV, you'll know any imbalance like we have here, can't and won't last forever, and without human interference either. Pigeons must learn to become 'streetwise' to raptors, has happened in the past, said before rock doves learned to live side by side in same territory as peregrines and still live to tell the tale. See it around here now, wild birds know when there is a raptor about, crows especially will harry them, and my birds seem tuned in to what is happening. Agree with others though, have experienced one strike here last year in my own garden, the pigeon (& sparrowhawk) escaped, but I was still pig-sick for weeks after that.IB the wild birds do get a bit wise so do some of the pigeons but [the hawk always gets its meal and keeps on breeding] so being street wise wont count because of the number game ,only lack of food or desise will sort the problem out naturaly nothing else can ,so with out us doing some thing ,i cant see it ever sorted in our life time ,or before the hobby comes to a end because of them .
aye ready Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 Well if any of you have been watching the recent 'Darwin' programmes on TV, you'll know any imbalance like we have here, can't and won't last forever, and without human interference either. Pigeons must learn to become 'streetwise' to raptors, has happened in the past, said before rock doves learned to live side by side in same territory as peregrines and still live to tell the tale. See it around here now, wild birds know when there is a raptor about, crows especially will harry them, and my birds seem tuned in to what is happening. Agree with others though, have experienced one strike here last year in my own garden, the pigeon (& sparrowhawk) escaped, but I was still pig-sick for weeks after that. tell that to a team of 50 y/bs when they've been scattered to the 4 corners of the earth after a strike you'll no hae a quarter of them left to become STREETWISE. whats ur definition on streetwise,running inside the loft every time a crow caws or taking off in some direction till the coasts clear or maybe lying against the black slated slopes of the house roof like the streeters if this is how u want to keep doo's ib then i think u'll be on ur own (scared)
Guest IB Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 tell that to a team of 50 y/bs when they've been scattered to the 4 corners of the earth after a strike you'll no hae a quarter of them left to become STREETWISE. whats ur definition on streetwise,running inside the loft every time a crow caws or taking off in some direction till the coasts clear or maybe lying against the black slated slopes of the house roof like the streeters if this is how u want to keep doo's ib then i think u'll be on ur own (scared) First, I'd be surprised if any bird flew into a loft to escape a predator: I'd think that totally against nature as even in humans its instinctive never to lead the enemy back to your camp. Second, my definition of being streetwise is simple - the bird should always be aware of what is going on around it, and if the wild birds are acting up - it should stop what its doing and pay attention. If there is a hawk on the go, it should at least know about it, and where the safest place is - probably up there with it, either same level, or above. And if the bird still feels unsafe, yes, clear off until the coast is clear, just as the other birds do, stupid not to, just as you yourself would if faced with anything life threatening. Third - no offence, but I've noted and remarked on it for several years, the strikes reported on this forum in January, February, March, usually on young birds. We know the hen sparrowhawk is active at this time, so I see no sense in having youngsters 'just on the the wing' during the same period. We need to get a bit streetwise ourselves, we breed pigeons to race, not to feed raptors.
aye ready Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 First, I'd be surprised if any bird flew into a loft to escape a predator: I'd think that totally against nature as even in humans its instinctive never to lead the enemy back to your camp. Second, my definition of being streetwise is simple - the bird should always be aware of what is going on around it, and if the wild birds are acting up - it should stop what its doing and pay attention. If there is a hawk on the go, it should at least know about it, and where the safest place is - probably up there with it, either same level, or above. And if the bird still feels unsafe, yes, clear off until the coast is clear, just as the other birds do, stupid not to, just as you yourself would if faced with anything life threatening. Third - no offence, but I've noted and remarked on it for several years, the strikes reported on this forum in January, February, March, usually on young birds. We know the hen sparrowhawk is active at this time, so I see no sense in having youngsters 'just on the the wing' during the same period. We need to get a bit streetwise ourselves, we breed pigeons to race, not to feed raptors.
aye ready Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 well comedown to my bit and stand in the loft if theres a hawk about those on the top take off those on the lander or ground would take ma head off coming into the loft which they know is the only safe haven they know they come thru the open doors like bats oot o hell
dudley Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 hi lads,there is something you can do,pm dave flemming,he will help you,i can promise you it works ,all the best dudley.
Roland Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 well comedown to my bit and stand in the loft if theres a hawk about those on the top take off those on the lander or ground would take ma head off coming into the loft which they know is the only safe haven they know they come thru the open doors like bats oot o hell So true, so very true ... I often fear for I.B. Again on a slightly different note, and not distracting, but says a lot for the 'Love of Home and Safety' Then contentment before you will win zilch.
jonl6280 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Posted March 21, 2009 well just get a nice CAMERA and get a nice shot....................
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