S.N.F.C. Tours 2008

[Pego]

Got 1st Tours bird today, had a hard time of it. Glad to see him as he already has an Alencon and 2 Newbury tickets.

[Guest bigda]

well is that it  17  birds from tour's  disaster or what ! Falaise

could  put a finish to the National as we know it, and as for the snrpc they are  all but  done  but don't  want  to alarm  the members, also as they can't find a result

10-13- birds home they think! surly now they must find out why these birds are not  homing, are the birds of this era not as good as   the old strains  where.  500 birds missing this week  200 last week,  400 club birds the week before that

and the week after that another 300 missing 1,500 within a month  and no one is bothering because they got one, on one of those  race days  but should you ask got mine all up.  :X :X :X :'( ??)

[billy wilson]

how can these convoyers expect birds to come through 400 miles at least in terrible conditions p*ss--g down with rain where do they get there line of flight from i know we get some bad races in the up north combine but not half as many as you guys up there my heart bleads for you and the pigeons.you put all the effort in getting the pigeons in the right conditions for these long races and a click of the fingers all gone,an absolute disgrace some one has to be sacked or there will be no more pigeons left in scotland to fly,what can i say to all you lads to make it any better-------------impossible all i can say is good look lads

                                                                      billy

[frank-123]

well is that it  17  birds from tour's  disaster or what ! Falaise

could  put a finish to the National as we know it, and as for the snrpc they are  all but  done  but don't  want  to alarm  the members, also as they can't find a result

10-13- birds home they think! surly now they must find out why these birds are not  homing, are the birds of this era not as good as   the old strains  where.  500 birds missing this week  200 last week,  400 club birds the week before that

and the week after that another 300 missing 1,500 within a month  and no one is bothering because they got one, on one of those  race days  but should you ask got mine all up.  :X :X :X :'( ??)

 

not doubting it was a bad race but where did you get 17 birds from the lib line ?

wait till the results come out then you will see how many made it home in race time

but you will never know how many made it home out with race time

 

[JADE]

well is that it  17  birds from tour's  disaster or what ! Falaise

could  put a finish to the National as we know it, and as for the snrpc they are  all but  done  but don't  want  to alarm  the members, also as they can't find a result

10-13- birds home they think! surly now they must find out why these birds are not  homing, are the birds of this era not as good as   the old strains  where.  500 birds missing this week  200 last week,  400 club birds the week before that

and the week after that another 300 missing 1,500 within a month  and no one is bothering because they got one, on one of those  race days  but should you ask got mine all up.  :X :X :X :'( ??)

 

the birds are good enough the weather was crap. well done getting them all home. what were your times and from which race(s)?

 

[Guest bigda]

bart what part are you trying to defend in this  as you know

this has  been going on now for  the last two years and  no one is bothered and if the young bird  fail then what price does it cost  to send, the birdage has  gone down every year  but these last two  have surpassed themselves,  the top fanciers have saved  face in these races  only with one  clocked, and its has  now caught up with them there "flying bank books" are not returning  like  the  way the used to, and they will not admit to it.  :'( :'( :'( :X

[frank-123]

not trying to defend anybody it was a poor race

as for the problems with pigeon racing it has been going on for the last 20 years not 2

but there has always been bad races in the history of the snfc

as for the losses thats another thread i  think

[Guest bigda]

not trying to defend anybody it was a poor race

as for the problems with pigeon racing it has been going on for the last 20 years not 2

but there has always been bad races in the history of the snfc

as for the losses thats another thread i  think

 

your right  about the twenty years,  but the  birds did turn up,   but now if your  not in the expected time you don't see them again,

its like a basket full get through   and the the rest hit a brick wall. club racing is the same,  is there a  military thing that switch its self on and off   every 30 minutes strange  one :'(

 

[ALF]

well is that it  17  birds from tour's  disaster or what ! Falaise

could  put a finish to the National as we know it, and as for the snrpc they are  all but  done  but don't  want  to alarm  the members, also as they can't find a result

10-13- birds home they think! surly now they must find out why these birds are not  homing, are the birds of this era not as good as   the old strains  where.  500 birds missing this week  200 last week,  400 club birds the week before that

and the week after that another 300 missing 1,500 within a month  and no one is bothering because they got one, on one of those  race days  but should you ask got mine all up.  :X :X :X :'( ??)

 

Bigda you seem to do a lot of slagging of organisations and what happens in them but what club/s are you in where do you fly your pigeons and who are you??

 

Alan

[Guest bigda]

 

Bigda you seem to do a lot of slagging of organizations and what happens in them but what club/s are you in where do you fly your pigeons and who are you??

 

Alan

   and  where  do you get that impression from

and as for slagging  organizations i have stated my opinion on facts that are happening   in the racing game just now  valuable  birds i that i have sent,  and there is no one  in here    seem to be bothered about there loss, of birds in the  feds  if the race from France had  a tad more birds home from it it  the delegates would be cock a hoop, and you don't send to the distance your self  its alright to say what you want, but don't ask for a postmortem

i am thinking of leaving one fed to join another   and who have the birds interest at heart, and not  that someone is talking behind someones back  as as who iam  i the police would"t ask those questions  i am just a guy who is not prepared to let  offenders off !  and if it was-en"t for this forum  the  common man would be keep in the dark  they way it  was of old . :) :X

 

 

[ALF]

   and  where  do you get that impression from

and as for slagging  organizations i have stated my opinion on facts that are happening   in the racing game just now  valuable  birds i that i have sent,  and there is no one  in here    seem to be bothered about there loss, of birds in the  feds  if the race from France had  a tad more birds home from it it  the delegates would be cock a hoop, and you don't send to the distance your self  its alright to say what you want, but don't ask for a postmortem

i am thinking of leaving one fed to join another   and who have the birds interest at heart, and not  that someone is talking behind someones back  as as who iam  i the police would"t ask those questions  i am just a guy who is not prepared to let  offenders off !  and if it was-en"t for this forum  the  common man would be keep in the dark  they way it  was of old . :) :X

 

 

I think you would have more chance of getting a decent reply to your questions about these races you are on about if everyone knew who they were talking to but if you are another 1 who wants to keep your name a secret that,s up to you

[Guest bigda]

 

I think you would have more chance of getting a decent reply to your questions about these races you are on about if everyone knew who they were talking to but if you are another 1 who wants to keep your name a secret that,s up to you

 

alf the reason i prefer not to know your name and every one on this  site is  that it causes less  friction  between  them  and me  i am happy to help if i can  this  pigeon game is getting harder

yes  some  officials are  wee Hitlers given office but are economical with the truth   there is already a split  in the feds going from west to east  and should that happen,  whats the chances of forgiveness it one of those race goes ape ship from the east,  we cant afford  a split,  my self is statues  qua for this year to save the fed then talk turkey then after. :X

[ALF]

 

alf the reason i prefer not to know your name and every one on this  site is  that it causes less  friction  between  them  and me  i am happy to help if i can  this  pigeon game is getting harder

yes  some  officials are  wee Hitlers given office but are economical with the truth   there is already a split  in the feds going from west to east  and should that happen,  whats the chances of forgiveness it one of those race goes ape ship from the east,  we cant afford  a split,  my self is statues  qua for this year to save the fed then talk turkey then after. :X

 

Everybody on here knows me anyway

[hotrod]

BIGDA i dont know where you get your info , the SNRPC  IS  not  all but done. WE at the SNRPC are as dumb struck as the rest of britain about the last couple of weeks . I think we have about between 12/14 in result from messac on par with the other national .

[johno]

there are 17 on the messac result.  10 per cent of the entry.

[midnight_son]

Just to balance some of the horror stories that have been posted here.

 

In my club alone 4 members sent 10 birds to Tours and at close on the 3rd day returns were (at least) 6/10. Not disastrous by any means although I take the point that maybe above average across the country. It's a small convoy, no matter what the weather you'll get  a hard race with a small convoy from 600 miles.

 

In Ypres 2 members sent 5 birds and returns are 100%

 

Long distance racing is hard, national racing is hard - it's meant to be - thats why it's special and we all get a buzz when we get one. If they all arrived home in a clatter and it was a piece of cake to time in from the distance then the sense of achievement wouldn't be there, it would just be another race. The committed distance fanciers know this and although disappointed if they didn't time in  or lost a champion, they will re-group and be back to try again next week, or next season.

[budgie]

With regards to Jamies Thread 17 Members in the Lanarkshire Social Circle sent 47 Birds and only 7 pigeons have managed the Tours result with velocities ranging from 924--449. 85% Losses   :( :(Overall this season we have sent 16 pigeons to all S.N.F.C races and dropped 4.However in the Fed our losses are up to 55% which i believe was down to the winds in the first six races and pigeons not being good enough .As i have always said there is 95% Sh-te in every loft with only a handfull of good pigoens.National minded members wiil re-group,takestock and come back next year.May i take this oppertunity to Congratulate W.Graham in winning the West Sect and the LSC from Tours and good luck to all who will be competing in the Falaise Race on 18th June .

[Guest bigda]

85% losses  for this race  falalase to come on your valuation on  the seven birds home  are the best birds,  and next year there is no point in sending birds back as the 7 returned from tours are going to be hard to beat,  the fact is 85% from 5,000 birds at the distance are missing this year and they are in your words "crap" if you send those 7 birds next year  how  much are you willing to pay £ 25 per bird as the numbers are not there any more and if you think 85% of the fanciers are going to pool birds next year you haven"t thought this through

the stock birds are  now condemned for this failure as you say

bad birds,  and to regroup  as you say  with what. :X

[rednyellow]

3 different races from 450 mls to 650mls the biggest convoy 300 birds, not too clever from us canny scots, the weather was terrible but what do we expect with such small numbers,never mind the snfc & snrpc will just have to run more yb sales to raise funds and maybe even a coffee morning!!!!!!!! :'( :'( very dissapointed distance fancier. :'( :'( lets get it sorted.

[rebel]

dont think there will be any chance of only the one organisation organising long distance races into scotland to many issues that i dont think will be resolved

[Guest]

http://www.snfc.co.uk/Result.aspx    50 timed in

[Guest bigda]

http://www.snfc.co.uk/Result.aspx    50 timed in

i and 250 bad birds missing

 

[doomaloon]

can anybody explain to me why we have two orginisations in scotland sending birds across the channel when its bleedin obvious that one could be better for all concerned     im not a national flyer but aspire to it

[Novice]

can anybody explain to me why we have two orginisations in scotland sending birds across the channel when its bleedin obvious that one could be better for all concerned     im not a national flyer but aspire to it

 

simply because the differences cannot be resolved at this point in time.

There were a number of people treated despicably in the past.

They are now happy to support their own club to enjoy the contentment which accompanies that.

Pigeon racing should be about pleasure without conflict.