views on theses products

[adam owen]

Avisal   - Never used

red cell   - Never used

Ronidazol  - Good for canker used in rotation withh other preventatives.

gemthepax   - Keeps birds in good condition, but smell is horrendous!

orego stim  - Waste money, use oregano oil instead.

doxycycline  - Ok if needed, best used for resp combined with Tylan

sedochol  - Under trial this year

tkk  - Never used, but know a few that swear by it.

prastop  - Never used, never will.

whAT IS SEDOCHOL USED FOR AND WHAT IS TKK I AGREE OREGO STIM A WAISTE OF MONEY DO U TREAT FOR PARATYPHOID THEN

 

 

[aye ready]

Avisal   - Never used

red cell   - Never used

Ronidazol  - Good for canker used in rotation withh other preventatives.

gemthepax   - Keeps birds in good condition, but smell is horrendous!

orego stim  - Waste money, use oregano oil instead.

doxycycline  - Ok if needed, best used for resp combined with Tylan

sedochol  - Under trial this year

tkk  - Never used, but know a few that swear by it.

prastop  - Never used, never will.

 

looked at sedochol at the murray and mills stall at blackpool but what put me off was it had a different name then a label with sedochol printed on it stuck to the bottle i'm sure the original stuff's name started with an R but i'm not sure,so what is sedochol? can anyone throw any light cos i'm oblivious

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Wouldn't waste my poppy on any..

[dwh]

 

looked at sedochol at the murray and mills stall at blackpool but what put me off was it had a different name then a label with sedochol printed on it stuck to the bottle i'm sure the original stuff's name started with an R but i'm not sure,so what is sedochol? can anyone throw any light cos i'm oblivious

 

never used it try this website tels you

pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/.../162091_sedochol_500ml.php

[BLACK W F]

ONLY USED RONI FIRST CLASS

[Guest mick bowler]

whAT IS SEDOCHOL USED FOR AND WHAT IS TKK I AGREE OREGO STIM A WAISTE OF MONEY DO U TREAT FOR PARATYPHOID THEN

 

 

Worth a read Adam:

 

http://www.schaerlaeckens.com/upload/part81.htm

 

Also speaking to a dutch fancier and asked him one thing he would not be without answer was Sedochol.

 

Why should i treat for Para if my birds not showing signs of it, or never have in 30 years? How many variants of Para is there and how many do the "treatments" cure!

 

 

[adam owen]

very true its just every body saying know its a must in winter time just wondered wat you thought on it

[Guest ljb107]

 

comes in a 1 pill treatment aswell turns the dropping orangey the next day then back to normal use them loads of times,use the pill form for racers and the powder form for stock birds-tkk

 

Where do you get the pill form from?

 

Thanks

 

Lloyd

[robbiedoo.]

i wander how much of this crap was flying around in the 60s and 70s when the old team wandered what happened when they lost a doo from a 3 to 400 mile race food for thought why pickle your doos.

[BLACK W F]

i wander how much of this crap was flying around in the 60s and 70s when the old team wandered what happened when they lost a doo from a 3 to 400 mile race food for thought why pickle your doos.

 

ROBBIE TAKE YOUR HEED OUT THE SAND  THEY BEEN AT IT SINCE THE LATE 60S JUST DIFFERENT NAMES   ;) ;)

[robbiedoo.]

 

ROBBIE TAKE YOUR HEED OUT THE SAND  THEY BEEN AT IT SINCE THE LATE 60S JUST DIFFERENT NAMES   ;) ;)

 

dont think so alan every thing has changed since then . its the same as the mixtures nearly every fanceir fed the same now a days every fanceir feeds different . all that medicine crap is just in the fashion with some jmo .

[Fair Play]

It's a multi million £ businness we buy it and they will supply it

[aye ready]

 

Where do you get the pill form from?

 

Thanks

 

Lloyd

 

BACKS produce both i can get both soluble powder and tablet form from my corn supplier

[gulkie]

 

you may find that some diseases from then have mutated and if had been treated in the fiftys would not now be around...because they most probably would have been eradicated.

 

try reading the book by the birdman of alcatraz..you will see that some of these diseases were diagnosed then.

 

can you give me what you know about medications to state that they are rubbish?

bet you go to the doctors as do your family each time any of you are ill..if you believe they are rubbish then why bother having treatment from your docs..after all..they are only rubbish!

 

how many of your family have had the swine flu jab?

how many the tb jab?

 

i say this time and time again...medications dont ruin birds.....fanciers ruin birds!!

 

heroin isnt doing any harm till its taken and abused ....by humans!!

 

 

misuse of anything can be deemed bad.

 

 

well said strapper

[Guest Taylors Choice]

 

looked at sedochol at the murray and mills stall at blackpool but what put me off was it had a different name then a label with sedochol printed on it stuck to the bottle i'm sure the original stuff's name started with an R but i'm not sure,so what is sedochol? can anyone throw any light cos i'm oblivious

 

The original Sedochol contains methionine, choline and sorbitol - very good for the liver and moult. The original stuff was made by Merial but has been copied since by other companies and third parties.

 

It's becoming harder to buy, and the price is high due to the euro.

 

What was the bottle like from Murray and Mills? The original bottle has been posted on here before by vallance, it's also on our website for reference, however we don't stock that one anymore. We switched to Setrachol by Travipharma

[wilkins]

i use the doctor brockamp sedochol , i get it from syndicate lofts

[aye ready]

 

The original Sedochol contains methionine, choline and sorbitol - very good for the liver and moult. The original stuff was made by Merial but has been copied since by other companies and third parties.

 

It's becoming harder to buy, and the price is high due to the euro.

 

What was the bottle like from Murray and Mills? The original bottle has been posted on here before by vallance, it's also on our website for reference, however we don't stock that one anymore. We switched to Setrachol by Travipharma

the bottle i looked at was maybe obout 6/7 inches tall with a kind pale orangey coloured liquid

 

[Guest Taylors Choice]

just a plain plastic bottle?

[aye ready]

just a plain plastic bottle?

 

yip

[Guest Taylors Choice]

thanks just curious thats all

[REDCHEQHEN]

There was merial sedochol available at Blackpool - £15 for 500mls

 

The one Murray & Mills had - I'm sure was in a dark bottle with a blue label (Gentisol???) with a Sedochol over sticker on

[REDCHEQHEN]

hi everyone i have been whatching a couple of dvds and several products were mentioned,im interested if anyone else uses them and how do you rate em ta

 

 

Avisal - not used (Don't know what it is)

red cell - have used but don't think I would buy again

Ronidazol - do use (alongside a few others alternating treatment)

gemthepax - use all year round

orego stim - use all year round

doxycycline - have used but wouldn't be my first choice

sedochol - do use during the moult along with naturaline

tkk - never used

parastop - never used - and there are a few manufacturers calling their product by the same name  using different 'ingredients' I prefer to use something that I know the ingredients of so wouldn't use De Weerdt's anyway)

 

 

[ribble]

This is the one Murry & Mills had for sale.

http://www.everythingforpets.com/belga_vet_gentochol_bvp.pet/use.id.5.item_id.8040.dept.83/

 

Oropharma also do one based on Sedochol ,it has B12 added.

[holmsidelofts]

i wander how much of this crap was flying around in the 60s and 70s when the old team wandered what happened when they lost a doo from a 3 to 400 mile race food for thought why pickle your doos.

 

What you have to remember the sport has moved on a huge amount back in the 60's 70's three were very little birds on the day from 400 miles, if you dont get one on the day you'd be gutted.  the quality of the birds have got better plus the improvement in medical science and the development of better supplements makes it impossible to compare that time to modern day.

 

What you have to remember and i say it all the time supplements wont make poor pigeons any better, they only supplement what is there. take athletes for example you would never compete if you didnt take supplements against another athlete that does. good birds, a well ventilated loft, good management, healthy birds thats what wins races with out any of those supplements are worthless.

 

Supplements are important and have a place in any sport including racing pigeons.

 

 

 

[dwh]

 

What you have to remember the sport has moved on a huge amount back in the 60's 70's three were very little birds on the day from 400 miles, if you dont get one on the day you'd be gutted.  the quality of the birds have got better plus the improvement in medical science and the development of better supplements makes it impossible to compare that time to modern day.

 

What you have to remember and i say it all the time supplements wont make poor pigeons any better, they only supplement what is there. take athletes for example you would never compete if you didnt take supplements against another athlete that does. good birds, a well ventilated loft, good management, healthy birds thats what wins races with out any of those supplements are worthless.

 

Supplements are important and have a place in any sport including racing pigeons.

 

 

 

how many times do we  see regimes offered  that recommends a flock treatment b4 and after racing

of some sort of medicine apparently endorsed by avet or avian specialist so is this right ir wrong?