marriots

[gulkie]

anyone remember "MARRIOTS" a friend of mine had them in the sixties.

[jakjak]

anyone remember "MARRIOTS" a friend of mine had them in the sixties.

 

blimey yes

brillant pigeons

a guy called Patzer had them back in the 80's        peterborough area

[gulkie]

there was another guy here in scotland [newstvenson]near holytown had them

cant recall his name

[OLDYELLOW]

i think DJW has some

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Funny enough i read a bit on him last night..

 

http://theupnorthcombine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117&Itemid=185

[WHITTY]

yes we had them bought them in 1958 from masserella he had the best of them won many snfc prizes with them the late j hamilton also had them and d rose aberdeen had them to

[OLDYELLOW]

Funny enough i read a bit on him last night..

 

http://theupnorthcombine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117&Itemid=185

 

good article

[PIGEONMAN_SEAN]

i had some but never did any think with them some years ago

[Dave barrie]

we have marriotts on loan from djw to breed of this year,stock cock to a g/daughter pairing down from davy rose breeding, we had y/birds off davy two yr ago and were unraced in first season but last year had a hen that flew the programme to hastings, good honest pigeons from a great fancier who would help anyone out.

[Roland]

He did spome weekly features in the Racing pigeon / BHW, and these have been repeated a couple of times. Absolutely brilliant reads. Maybe some has copies, or they are most likely on some site. Elimar or such.

Yes was a great flyer. Remember a little to a lot, but won't be quoted on them as hate to mislead even if intentions are good.

[Roland]

The Marriots

 

The pigeons under consideration is that of the late Fred Marriott of Birmingham, England, who many believe has not received its rightful status amongst the great families of racing pigeons.

 

Marriott began racing pigeons in 1899 and flew both the North Road and the South Road into England and in due course prior to his clearance sale in January 1956 on the South Road he was Ist Open in both 1924 and 1925 NFC races with Triumph and Repetition, plus 2nd Open 1929 with Nap, to be followed by 6th 1907, 11th 1936, 15th 1937, 1st 1940 (with Premier), 5th 1948, and many other other positions over the years of his involvement. On the North Road Marriott was 1st, 4th and 5th Open Lerwick with the NRCC 1920, 1st, 3rd & 25th in 1921, 3rd 1922, 10th 1923, 2nd 1934, 6th & 7th 1953. Of course there were also many successes at Federation, Combine and Club levels.

 

The base of the Marriott pigeons was a cock called Dreadnought, who was bred in 1908 containing the bloodlines of Marriott's old Bordeaux Cock and Toft's winner of 1st NFC Bordeaux 1899. The Bordeaux Cock was from an unnamed Belgian source and a full sister to Jumbo who flew and won from Granville, Rennes and Marennes in three consecutive years, plus 6th Open NFC San Sebastian in 1907. W.C. Moore bloodlines were also involved including Barker's Marcia with traces of Gits, Debue and Plentinckx blood. In fact the pedigree contains a mosaic of well known fancier names prominent in the sport of the time. Dreadnought himself was not particularly outstanding as a racer although winning prizes from Ventnor, Granville, Rennes and Marennes. Marriott however as an astute observer saw his potential as a breeder and retired him As a stock bird Dreadnought earned his laurels but Marriott mysteriously disposed of him in 1915 admitting later that he had made a great blunder. He apparently had sired winners with any hen he was ever paired with. Of his many winning offspring perhaps the greatest was the famous Lerwick Hen who in 1920 won 1st Open Lerwick and in the following year won the Kings Cup outright for Marriott by repeating what she accomplished the previous year. This great racer also contained Moss bloodlines.

 

As the Editor for a time of the British Homing World it has been said that Fred Marriott was in the position of obtaining pigeons from the best fanciers of his day. Whether or not it was his position as the editor of the BHW which helped him in his ambitions as a racer there is no doubt that a perusal of his pigeons pedigrees show an array of the names of the leading fanciers and their outstanding pigeons of the time. This would imply I think an outcross approach to the production of pigeons capable of bringing the bacon home so to speak and a study of the Marriott technique would tend to confirm that he relied more upon outcrossing rather than anything else. That as a fancier the possibility of procuring so many good pigeons led to a situation in which the appearance of good racers was inevitable based upon the concept of luck or fate alone. There is no escaping the truth however that Fred Marriott was one of the elite fanciers of the 20th century but whether one could safely state that what he produced was a strain is questionable according to others. Based upon the 'Marriott phenomenon' however there are those who contend that the traditional concept of a 'strain' and what constitutes one requires to be re- assessed.

 

by: Liam O Comain

 

Mind if one put in Marriot Pigeons on Google search a fantastic array comes up.

[gulkie]

excelent ROLAND ur reply more than answers my question.

 

 

 

the guy that had the Marriots in newstevenson i think was called

  BIVELL and they were mostly cheq  &dk cheq

thanks for all reply,s

[lanarkshire lad]

excelent ROLAND ur reply more than answers my question.

 

 

 

the guy that had the Marriots in newstevenson i think was called

  BIVELL and they were mostly cheq  &dk cheq

thanks for all reply,s

Was it not bovell or something that sounds like it.?

 

 

[Guest]

i think DJW has some

 

your correct mark ive some nice reds and checks

they have scored quite well in the club very consistant birds

had no luck with them out of the nationals though

mine originate from jack lieper who bought them in with davy rose

 

one from jack

[Guest]

2 im racing

[cemetary]

we have marriotts on loan from djw to breed of this year,stock cock to a g/daughter pairing down from davy rose breeding, we had y/birds off davy two yr ago and were unraced in first season but last year had a hen that flew the programme to hastings, good honest pigeons from a great fancier who would help anyone out.

 

Except me, :-/ :-/ :-/ Barrie yer just a crawler,  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

They reds look good Dave, getting the nack of the camera now after all those years haveing it,  ??) ??) ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

2 im racing

 

They are crackers Davie 8) 8) 8)

[ALF]

 

Except me, :-/ :-/ :-/ Barrie yer just a crawler,  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

They reds look good Dave, getting the nack of the camera now after all those years haveing it,  ??) ??) ;D ;D ;D

 

Your beyond help anyway :P ;D ;D ;D ;D

[cemetary]

 

They are crackers Davie 8) 8) 8)

 

Another crawler, they look good Davey, get a life bunker heid,  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

 

Another crawler, they look good Davey, get a life bunker heid,  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Away an bile yer heid ya muppet :P ;D ;D ;D ;D

[BLACK W F]

looking good davie  how close to davie rose,s  birds are they

[gulkie]

Was it not bovell or something that sounds like it.?

 

sounds somit like that he was an old man when i met

him 40 or so years ago

 

[cemetary]

 

Away an bile yer heid ya muppet :P ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Aff Topic, stick to the thread, or sling yer hook.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

There ready for the fed show Davey Pal,   :P :P

[Guest frank dooman]

yes we had them bought them in 1958 from masserella he had the best of them won many snfc prizes with them the late j hamilton also had them and d rose aberdeen had them to

 

did jimmy not get them off davy rose?

[Dave barrie]

 

Except me, :-/ :-/ :-/ Barrie yer just a crawler,  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

They reds look good Dave, getting the nack of the camera now after all those years haveing it,  ??) ??) ;D ;D ;D

 

sorry if i upset yi dougie ha ha he  8)