Walter swanston Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 I am a member of another organisation (nothing to do with pigeons) ! have been informed that there will be no AGM this year but the financial situation of the organisation will be circulated to the membership and all the officials will remain in place standing for re election in Autumn 2021. I wonder how such an arrangement would work with pigeon federations and clubs I suspect it would not find favour with many fanciers on account of contentious matters such as racepoints etc. What do site members think considering that the alternative would seem to be some kind of distance voting system which would be cumbersome and contentious. What do site members think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Unfortunately some decisions have to be made without the majority present - and it may not meet with everybodies approval, our organisation has had meetings, some have taken place in the open air, and others in an enclosed room, it's not ideal whichever way you look at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I am a member of another organisation (nothing to do with pigeons) ! have been informed that there will be no AGM this year but the financial situation of the organisation will be circulated to the membership and all the officials will remain in place standing for re election in Autumn 2021. I wonder how such an arrangement would work with pigeon federations and clubs I suspect it would not find favour with many fanciers on account of contentious matters such as racepoints etc. What do site members think considering that the alternative would seem to be some kind of distance voting system which would be cumbersome and contentious. What do site members think? Walter, AGM's are meant to be held within 12 to 15 months from the previous AGM, however, due to Covid 19 this legislation has been suspended. Your other organisation is correct in making its statement. I am in the process of preparing for our AGM, but given the recent rise in cases of Covid 19, I have serious doubts whether it will take place. I am of the opinion that Government legislation takes precedence over the whimsies of pigeon fanciers and the health and financial well-being of the country is more important. We will just have to get on with it. We were extremely lucky to have any racing this year, albeit in retrospect, it might have been better if we hadn't bothered. The Committees who are in place will just have to keep "steering the ship". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Well for me glasgow fed needs to have an EGM mm ever mind an AGM . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter swanston Posted September 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 1599558429[/url]' post='1241766']Well for me glasgow fed needs to have an EGM mm ever mind an AGM . How you gonnae manage any kind of meeting with this social distancing s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 How you gonnae manage any kind of meeting with this social distancing s***.That’s a different matter Walter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greigthedoodrysdale Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 A lot of companies holding meetings virtually on zoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 A lot of companies holding meetings virtually on zoomThink it’s not so easy with 50/60/70 at a zoom meeting then u get the idiots that mute you when they don’t like what your saying . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 100 participants Participants can join a meeting from their phone, desktop, mobile and tablet devices. How many participants can join the meeting? All plans allow up to 100 participants by default in each meeting (up to 1,000 with Large Meeting add-on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramshackle Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Status quo it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally mac Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Status quo it is thenMore than likely. The way covid going there will bd no agms and these zoom things wount suit an awful lot of folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 More than likely. The way covid going there will bd no agms and these zoom things wount suit an awful lot of folk. The Zoom would suit yersel Ally and most people nowadays. Definitely the way forward, even without covid. It saves people travelling all over the place , especially in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Oh and that’s if your informed about said meeting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter swanston Posted September 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I am afraid to say I know guys who are genuinely good people and fine fanciers but they ain’t computer literate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I am afraid to say I know guys who are genuinely good people and fine fanciers but they ain’t computer literate. You only need one computer and 2 or 3 seats in the room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally mac Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 The Zoom would suit yersel Ally and most people nowadays. Definitely the way forward, even without covid. It saves people travelling all over the place , especially in the winter.Aye it would be grand for me Derek but like Walter said, not everyone is familiar or able to get access to these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greigthedoodrysdale Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Think it’s not so easy with 50/60/70 at a zoom meeting then u get the idiots that mute you when they don’t like what your saying . Who gets numbers like that at AGM? I'm no sure about mute or functions. I've never used the app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Postal vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboah Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Postal vote?That's the simple answer Proposals submitted Agenda's sent out Voting form enclosed covering all necessary points All sheets numbered eliminating duplication Every member then gets to vote eliminating threat from covid Simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 That's the simple answer Proposals submitted Agenda's sent out Voting form enclosed covering all necessary points All sheets numbered eliminating duplication Every member then gets to vote eliminating threat from covid Simples No way Mick, ye need complete trust for that to happen lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally mac Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Postal vote?That makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboah Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 No way Mick, ye need complete trust for that to happen lolScottish fanciers 100% Honest never been a dodgy one surely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Should be a breeze pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Scottish fanciers 100% Honest never been a dodgy one surely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Should be a breeze pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Most clubs can hold a meeting with the Fed secretary sending out all proposals to the club secretaries. Each proposition is voted on at club level with the fors and againsts counted at the delegates meeting. The club delegates could easily have a meeting and votes counted in the presence of all club representatives. The results of each vote is forwarded to the club secretaries who call another meeting to inform the members of the outcome of each individual vote.Everything transparent and the members would more than likely get more of a say in the running of their fed than ever before at AGM's. Because for one reason or another they cannot or do not attend. Usually find a lot dont attend because of the bile spewed out by people who don't know how to conduct themselves at a meeting. They go to speak and are shouted down because their opinion differs from those who can only be described as bullies and they'd rather do without a say by attending the meeting only to be aggressively critcised for having their own thoughts on things.So meetings are possible, results that reflect the Majority of members wishes can be carried without the need for an AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 No way Mick, ye need complete trust for that to happen lolOnly way Del. Can you imagine a zoom meeting?? Roaring and shouting in mute at half deaf 80+ fanciers??? No chance. Postal is the only solution and the risk of manipulation will just have to be tolerated aI'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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