Birdage Per Member

[lordcornwallis]

when i started pigeon's in 1981 most lofts were 12x6 the odd one 16x6 and of course the club mob flyer a much bigger loft. birds sent were 5, 10,15 per fancier old bird racing . my question is what's the average birdage a fancier sends these days ? in these times of Mob flyers !!!

[REDCHEQHEN]

None at the moment

[neila]

I have 20 boxs I send the cooks every week I also send 8 to 10 of there hens

I started the first race last year with 33

[bibendium]

when i started pigeon's in 1981 most lofts were 12x6 the odd one 16x6 and of course the club mob flyer a much bigger loft. birds sent were 5, 10,15 per fancier old bird racing . my question is what's the average birdage a fancier sends these days ? in these times of Mob flyers !!!

 

I was racing in 1981 and before and totally disagree with everything you post here . most ;ofts were sending bigger teams than now there were more fanciers as well I also send less now than we did then

[Roland]

Too many bred to lose.

In the late 50' and early sixty's there were just under 150.000 fanciers. fact, check of the R.P.R.A.

 

Now there is barely 25.000! fact. Also the fact is that vastly more pigeons are sent today to the races.

I am been around pigeons for over 67 years.

When no training, or very seldom by the bulk of the grass roots.

When youngsters were split into first rounders and second rounder. All expected to fly the whole programme. Up to 250 miles or more some time. Fact! First rounder 65 miles first race and a 100 second. Next two weeks the same for the second rounders. No rotation then either. Days before molly- coddling and all important distance races frown on … Mostly because those able wanted Money! Yes of course a bird was delivered by train to be picked up, 3/6p 17 pence. But it went the next race - and often done well. It flew its self into condition mOr maybe it didn't like to be away from the loft.

 

Season's end meant sorting out what had to go. What youngster deserves a perch - sometimes granted a nest box. 24 birds was a norm, over that was a big to 'Mob Flyer'.

Edited April 10, 2020 by Roland

[neila]

I have 20 boxs I send the cooks every week I also send 8 to 10 of there hens

I started the first race last year with 33

 

 

I should have wrote I started the first yb race with 33 last year.

[neila]

I was racing in 1981 and before and totally disagree with everything you post here . most ;ofts were sending bigger teams than now there were more fanciers as well I also send less now than we did then

 

I had them in the early 80's and remember lots of big teams in my area 30 to 40 cocks and teams of 70 to 80 youngsters being common

[Joe tyre]

Only difference from years ago is losses now to then you could send 30 and loss maybay 1 or 2 these days it's a different story that's for sure

[Roland]

Joe, bang on. Too many breed huge amounts to combat their' losses. Time to look in the mirror? Yes breed to lose!

But then with the commercial side spouting, and selling rubbish to the fancier, and because 'So and So' allegedly does... The rot will not get better, only deepen. The excuse of stupidity abound galore with the deep rooted desire to do the same... 'With a nod and a wink 'Next Year '

Simply what chance do our supposedly loved friends have eh!

Edited April 11, 2020 by Roland

[neila]

How many rings have we all ordered ? I had 60 as the rpra only sell in 20's

I normally have 40 babies this year I have 12 pair of stock ( I don't breed out of racers )

I am ringing 48 for myself although it will be 45 due to a couple if dud eggs

I will breed 12 to 15 or so to give away out if the racers in August to mates

 

So 45 rings for myself

[Roland]

You know, but hardly any one will, that it would be a good idea, room pending to breed a few late ones April, say six. Then have a some August bred ones. Many birds - the way most are breeding and what from, will be lost off the top. Next year send a few of them a couple of hundred miles.

First off change the pairings. even swap a few with others. Get birds with a bit of vigour and not a loss of Homing instincts you've knocked the crap out off! Make use for a change, or it will be those at the top last year ruling the roost again this year!

You all know the logic of only racing birds THAT want to be in your hotel for Pigeons! This year many have a chance to do just that. To start letting Mr Basket sort OUT the wheat from the Chaff … But surely it would be far, far better if sorting OUT good birds than those just bred to lose! Do the same each year and as Delboy often says, as well as other. 'Do the same this year and you will get the same results. Why does one think it will be different?! Yeah I know, you might, just get one or two worthwhile!

[lordcornwallis]

You know, but hardly any one will, that it would be a good idea, room pending to breed a few late ones April, say six. Then have a some August bred ones. Many birds - the way most are breeding and what from, will be lost off the top. Next year send a few of them a couple of hundred miles.

First off change the pairings. even swap a few with others. Get birds with a bit of vigour and not a loss of Homing instincts you've knocked the crap out off! Make use for a change, or it will be those at the top last year ruling the roost again this year!

You all know the logic of only racing birds THAT want to be in your hotel for Pigeons! This year many have a chance to do just that. To start letting Mr Basket sort OUT the wheat from the Chaff … But surely it would be far, far better if sorting OUT good birds than those just bred to lose! Do the same each year and as Delboy often says, as well as other. 'Do the same this year and you will get the same results. Why does one think it will be different?! Yeah I know, you might, just get one or two worthwhile!

 

well said Roland , wonder who many will take this free sound advice on board ?? i hope many do so

[peter dempsey]

great advice as usual Roland when is the book coming out ???

[Roland]

Hi Peter.

Have rewrote what I sent you. Also added some more.

Have also started another book/story too. These times have been bad in many ways for us all. Yet has many silver linings.