West Region Combine

[tommy bhoys]

All the LRPF higher arch were informed 5 weeks ago,, all were very much supportive and on board ������

well im not and was never informed by the officials but will be asking them this week why ??????lanarkshire dont need this the feds in a good place with birdage transporters and cash so why do we need a few hundred birds fae other feds mare like they need us

[Paul Mac 31]

well im not and was never informed by the officials but will be asking them this week why ??????lanarkshire dont need this the feds in a good place with birdage transporters and cash so why do we need a few hundred birds fae other feds mare like they need us

 

Yip, like u said 5 weeks ago, when u were called , that you wouldn’t be doing the convoying when I asked you to get on board. “ you had, had enough†I said sad to hear that , great old bird season.

 

You have your opinions, entitled to them, again the majority will decide

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Alot of Positive movement on the WRC front... in the last 24hours we have established 3 marking stations

New house

Ayrshire

Glasgow

 

Again a show of commitment and working together.

 

So what's people's thoughts on the WRC as a whole, any gripes, issues or fears???

 

All input is welcome, what we want is as good an organisation as possible..

 

 

 

 

Birdage Fees have yet to be discussed, but I can a sure fanciers , it will be the same if not a lot less than your Inland Nationals

Guaranteed.

 

This will have allayed the fears of a lot of fanciers. Hopefully it will receive the backing of Lanarkshire Federation and the transportation will be in place to make sure it happens.

[tommy bhoys]

This will have allayed the fears of a lot of fanciers. Hopefully it will receive the backing of Lanarkshire Federation and the transportation will be in place to make sure it happens.

dont count on it andy lanarkshire members dont need this

[oliver]

would like to know who is making the decisions for Ayrshire Fed,for as the current secretary i have heard nothing official from anyone nor to the best of my knowledge has any other official. It would be nice for this to be organised in an orderly manner and not by the few who shout loudest.Not much wrong with the idea but its the workers who will make this happen that will need convinced.Good luck in the future

[Big50cal]

well im not and was never informed by the officials but will be asking them this week why ??????lanarkshire dont need this the feds in a good place with birdage transporters and cash so why do we need a few hundred birds fae other feds mare like they need us

Tommy you are my good friend but the fed is a joke mate all they want is money this is the best thing that can happen

[JonesyBhoy]

Tommy you are my good friend but the fed is a joke mate all they want is money this is the best thing that can happen

 

This is about progressing and prolonging the sport in the West.. what better than creating something new and fresh and exciting.. bigger birdage / competition and prizes..

 

Time for the sport to come together ðŸ‘ðŸ»ðŸ‘ðŸ»

[Paul Mac 31]

would like to know who is making the decisions for Ayrshire Fed,for as the current secretary i have heard nothing official from anyone nor to the best of my knowledge has any other official. It would be nice for this to be organised in an orderly manner and not by the few who shout loudest.Not much wrong with the idea but its the workers who will make this happen that will need convinced.Good luck in the future

 

 

Key members of each federation have been approached as it’s the feeling out stage , which I’m delighted with the feedback, which allows us to amend certain points and issues,, to insure the best possible proposal into Lanarkshire, then if approved all Federations have the ability to follow suit.

We need to rid this Us and them attitude, in the coming years this will have to happen,, to survive, ,,,that’s every Fed,,,,,let’s do it now and enjoy the next decade together for A handful of races,,,They Key issue of est a new Club which everyone in the region can join, is to take politics and grudges out of the equation. It also allows non Federation members of the 3, to also take part.

Trust me everything will be in place for this to go, all we need is common sense to prevail

 

See yous after the Yb season , Safe Racing

Paul Mac

[Joe tyre]

Is this really all about more birds as it will not make any difference to predators etc with more birds and for the losses due to weather conditions to which everyone has their oppinions on but can't be explained properly wether up in perfect conditions or not the losses will continue no matter how many birds are away if wee are sending 4000 birds plus to a short race wot difference will another couple of thousand make the predators will still have a field day if not better and easier for them I think again just my opinion on it

[oliver]

never been in favour of conducting business on an open forum,even gathering information,can be very restrictive

never had a problem with Us and Them neither now or in the past,totally agree,it has to happen? remember rules are simple people make them difficult.I still stand by my last paragraph and wish you every success in what your trying to achieve

[Guest mambo]

If this new club is formed IE the WRC who then has custody of the Lanarkshire feds transporters and trailers will the Lanarkshire give up for free there trucks, for the NEW WRC and its accounts as once you become a member you are entitled to all that it earns, also will Glasgow and Ayrshire will they put there transporters into the pot, for the betterment of the WRC funds

[Paul Mac 31]

If this new club is formed IE the WRC who then has custody of the Lanarkshire feds transporters and trailers will the Lanarkshire give up for free there trucks, for the NEW WRC and its accounts as once you become a member you are entitled to all that it earns, also will Glasgow and Ayrshire will they put there transporters into the pot, for the betterment of the WRC funds

 

 

As stated in the above post,, which I have repeatedly shared if you care to read

 

Lanarkshire will transport the WRC,,just like they transport the LSC,, hence they out of all the Federations benefit more than anyone financially

The others have the opportunity now to transport and be part of the WRC instead of losing money convoying themselves or convoying with the SNFC.

Hence everyone’s a winner.

 

The WRC will run as close to Non Profit as possible , covering its over heads in the future, which are very little, prize money, presentation.

 

 

 

I know Your determined to find faults , but trust me it’s bomb proof ,

Everyone in the region together

Feds not losing money at longer races.

Fed making more than ever financially.

All racing into the one area, improving the line for later races.

Superb prize money.

Superb competition.

Superb Trophies and ACE pigeon awards

Superb transport.

Superb And Flexible Marking station

 

And above all,,,,,,,,fingers crossed,,superb Inland Racing

 

 

 

Mic,,, Drop

[Guest mambo]

If you say all that, what will be the point in having a club hut,end that and the game dies

[Paul Mac 31]

If you say all that, what will be the point in having a club hut,end that and the game dies

 

Nope, wrong again, you will need your club hut for the other 14 or 15 races per season,, just like what’s been done with Snfc for the last 4 decades.

[JCN]

As already stated this is bomb proof.

The best thing that can happen to pigeon racing in West of Scotland and we've been crying out for this for years. Hats off to you Paul for the vision and hard work you've put in to promote thus far

[Paul Mac 31]

As already stated this is bomb proof.

The best thing that can happen to pigeon racing in West of Scotland and we've been crying out for this for years. Hats off to you Paul for the vision and hard work you've put in to promote thus far

 

 

Appreciated. Nothing comes together over night and it’s gonna take the members to get to the meeting and vote for the better of the sport.

This movement means their is no losers in the West Region, every member of each Federation will benefit.

Hopefully we get some great racing.

[Guest mambo]

The thing that is going to affect the operation is the time factor with over 18 clubs plus turning up at the euro central and not getting away till about ten just like the nationals, don't think their will be many votes for that every week

[Joe tyre]

Is it just a few races the WRC will be involved in and other races are still Lanarkshire fed races as everyone's saying different things on here and hard to know wot races are wot lol and are clubs still marking at their own club huts in races not involved in the WRC

[Paul Mac 31]

Is it just a few races the WRC will be involved in and other races are still Lanarkshire fed races as everyone's saying different things on here and hard to know wot races are wot lol and are clubs still marking at their own club huts in races not involved in the WRC

 

Nope just one guy that clearly can’t read...

 

3 old birds 1 young birds

 

 

For the 3rd time

 

Below

 

In 2020 we will be looking at establishing a Brand New Racing Club.

 

The West Region Combine ( W.R.C)

 

Before going into details of our plans,

This clubs Foundation will live or die by firstly the vote of the LRPF members at their 2020 AGM, all the below will be proposed , If members vote To convoy as the WRC for these races ,,this is what we would be looking at creating........

 

( again I stress this is a guide line ,,,I.e dates and race points are not set in stone, also no one will lose their identity as Federations)

 

THE W.R.C

 

Open to all lofts Currently situated in the boundaries of West Region of either SNFC or SNRPC

Will consist of

3/4 inland old bird races

1 Young bird race

 

(These boundaries have been in place for decades, yes their will be some that want XYZ inc, but to get this off the ground we must build on what is already their)

 

Transportation will be that of LRPF, unless over 8000 Birds where alternative Geraldy transport will be added.

The W.R.C will be Controlled by the LRPF Race Control team.

 

( In essence it will run exactly like the Lanarkshire Social Circle has done successfully for Decades )

 

Central Marking will take place in EUROFAB Factory for the WRC races,

Situated in Newhouse industrial estate, directly off the M8 Motorway

Which provides a Dry , Clean environment and cover for over 500 plus fanciers their birds, Toilet facilities and Also will adequate car parking for Fanciers. With Transporter being loaded undercover infront of the members,,as the birds are marked and watered.

Also gives us flexibility in terms of basketing times.

 

( the Use of this factory will be donated by the Macaloney Family)

 

The WRC will race under SHU rules

( those who are not SHU members can simply, apply)

 

If all Federations within the Region Get on board

The WRC will consist of 3 sections

Lanarkshire ( any south Lanarkshire members who wish to join the WRC will be inc in this section)

Glasgow

Ayrshire

 

TheFederation boundary’s are already in place for each of the WRC Sections,,,any West Region member that is not in any of these Federations will be placed in the Section nearest his or her location for the Combine result.

 

( these Feds will be obviously urged to vote also to convoy with the WRC insuring we are all together)

 

The WRC Open result will consist of the fastest 50 birds from each Section

Thus giving a fair display across the Combine.

 

we are looking at Each Section having the same prize money for the 1,2,3 places

1st £250

2nd £150

3rd £100

 

A £5 NOM will be in place across the WRC Open result

No limit on the amount of birds that can be NOMINATED.

( 75% will go to the winners of the First NOM bird )

( 25% will be retained by the Club to help with running costs)

 

A £10 Loft pool will also be available for those wishing to enter.

Again paid out in a 75% -25%

 

(We would encourage that the competing Federations also have their own Open race on these days, as they have done in the past, thus providing alternative pools for their members, again the above is guide lines of what we could have. )

 

Presentation Night ( free )

Seasons 4/5 race Winners

- 4/5 major Trophies that will be the future Historical Refs for the club

12 Section winners - Medals

 

WRC ACE Birds Awards

worked on points system, a Top 10 will issued

( each Section 50 points for 1st, 1 point for 50th etc)

Most points wins, and so on, listed 1-10

 

Depending on running costs the ACE bird will the most prestigious prize in the WRC receiving in the regions of £1000.

Insuring the Multi Performance birds get true accolades.

 

Extra Funding.

An Annual sale will be held , containing Birds from the best lofts in Europe to boost funds.

Sponsorship will also be raised from various Feed companies and local businesses and Businessmen.

 

Facebook Live,,

Gone are the days of £1.50 to call a lib line, The WRC Facebook page will run live on Race Days , with members only pass ,allowing fanciers the option to record their first birds times as the race unfolds.

 

The Facebook Page will also deliver winning Results, reports,,updates,,lost birds etc.

 

Costs -£0,,, Only effort and time needed.

 

So What are We creating?

 

A footprint for the future of inland racing into the west of Scotland,with the flexibility to insure our birds have the best available care, transport and chance of performing at the highest possible level, be that in the WRC races or as prep for future Channel Races.

Our Goal is simple to deliver Quality Inland Racing with a superb Competition, with all the convoy heading to the The same Area of Scotland, Racing in a competitive Open result, within your own environment,, with safety in numbers, But most importantly also insuring the Future of the sport.

 

First draft, of what we are looking a proposing for 2020.

( remember distance you fly isn’t always what everyone flys their will always be a longest and shortest flier, we must take every loft in The Region into account)

 

Proposed LRPF 2020 program

 

11th April - Kelso 64 miles

18th April - Kelso 64 miles

25th April - Hexham 97 miles

2nd May - Ripon 157 miles

9th May - Ripon 157 miles

16th May - Wetherby 170 miles

23rd May - WRC Worksop 210 - 235 miles

30th May - Ripon 157 miles

6th June - WRC NewMarket 300 - 325 miles

13th June - Kelso 64 miles

20th June - WRC Chelmsford 340- 365 miles

27th June - Kelso 64 miles

4th July - Ypres 450 miles

 

( Feds would vote as always to either go with SNFC or on their own as previous years

The WRC has no interest in Channel Racing, it’s sole purpose is to deliver quality inland racing and competition to the West Region )

 

Young Bird 2020

Kelso - 64 miles

Kelso - 64 miles

Hexham - 97 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Wetherby - W.R C. 170mile - 190 miles

 

In 2020 any start up or running costs of the WRC will be funded by Macaloney Pigeons.

Their after everything going to plan the organisation should be hopefully self Funding, running as close to non profit as possible, basically covering overheads, giving everything back to its members, also insuring Great inland Racing for years to come.

 

Why Now, why have we got involved ?

 

Let’s not try and pull the wool over any ones eyes, at some point all the above organisations will have to amalgamate, purely due to fall in membership, why not do it now, while we can and try and breath some life back into the sport. In the past it’s no secret that between our partnership we have all ran successful businesses throughout the years, which involved running an organisation and delivering on our promises. I personally see it as our way of giving back to the sport that has given us so much enjoyment for 4 generations, but also trying to improve our own Quality of racing.

 

After the last race of 2019 , this letter will be issued to all clubs and Feds with in the region, I would personally also like to visit all clubs in my own Federation to hear any issues,,suggestions or fears.. to sum up this club for me provides and Umbrella as such for all the feds to come together, taking all politics and personal issues out of the equation and fingers crossed providing what we should all want, a better quality of racing into the West Region.

 

Yours in sport

Paul Macaloney

[geordie1234]

The thing that is going to affect the operation is the time factor with over 18 clubs plus turning up at the euro central and not getting away till about ten just like the nationals, don't think their will be many votes for that every week

 

Can you please re read the post..... 3 old bird races 1 yb race

 

Is it just a few races the WRC will be involved in and other races are still Lanarkshire fed races as everyone's saying different things on here and hard to know wot races are wot lol and are clubs still marking at their own club huts in races not involved in the WRC

 

Three old bird races

 

One young bird race

 

Rest of the season business as usual

[Paul Mac 31]

Can you please re read the post..... 3 old bird races 1 yb race

 

 

 

Three old bird races

 

One young bird race

 

Rest of the season business as usual

 

 

Reading the post usually helps,,,, before saying ,, I’m against 😂

[Joe tyre]

Nope just one guy that clearly can’t read...

 

3 old birds 1 young birds

 

 

For the 3rd time

 

Below

 

In 2020 we will be looking at establishing a Brand New Racing Club.

 

The West Region Combine ( W.R.C)

 

Before going into details of our plans,

This clubs Foundation will live or die by firstly the vote of the LRPF members at their 2020 AGM, all the below will be proposed , If members vote To convoy as the WRC for these races ,,this is what we would be looking at creating........

 

( again I stress this is a guide line ,,,I.e dates and race points are not set in stone, also no one will lose their identity as Federations)

 

THE W.R.C

 

Open to all lofts Currently situated in the boundaries of West Region of either SNFC or SNRPC

Will consist of

3/4 inland old bird races

1 Young bird race

 

(These boundaries have been in place for decades, yes their will be some that want XYZ inc, but to get this off the ground we must build on what is already their)

 

Transportation will be that of LRPF, unless over 8000 Birds where alternative Geraldy transport will be added.

The W.R.C will be Controlled by the LRPF Race Control team.

 

( In essence it will run exactly like the Lanarkshire Social Circle has done successfully for Decades )

 

Central Marking will take place in EUROFAB Factory for the WRC races,

Situated in Newhouse industrial estate, directly off the M8 Motorway

Which provides a Dry , Clean environment and cover for over 500 plus fanciers their birds, Toilet facilities and Also will adequate car parking for Fanciers. With Transporter being loaded undercover infront of the members,,as the birds are marked and watered.

Also gives us flexibility in terms of basketing times.

 

( the Use of this factory will be donated by the Macaloney Family)

 

The WRC will race under SHU rules

( those who are not SHU members can simply, apply)

 

If all Federations within the Region Get on board

The WRC will consist of 3 sections

Lanarkshire ( any south Lanarkshire members who wish to join the WRC will be inc in this section)

Glasgow

Ayrshire

 

TheFederation boundary’s are already in place for each of the WRC Sections,,,any West Region member that is not in any of these Federations will be placed in the Section nearest his or her location for the Combine result.

 

( these Feds will be obviously urged to vote also to convoy with the WRC insuring we are all together)

 

The WRC Open result will consist of the fastest 50 birds from each Section

Thus giving a fair display across the Combine.

 

we are looking at Each Section having the same prize money for the 1,2,3 places

1st £250

2nd £150

3rd £100

 

A £5 NOM will be in place across the WRC Open result

No limit on the amount of birds that can be NOMINATED.

( 75% will go to the winners of the First NOM bird )

( 25% will be retained by the Club to help with running costs)

 

A £10 Loft pool will also be available for those wishing to enter.

Again paid out in a 75% -25%

 

(We would encourage that the competing Federations also have their own Open race on these days, as they have done in the past, thus providing alternative pools for their members, again the above is guide lines of what we could have. )

 

Presentation Night ( free )

Seasons 4/5 race Winners

- 4/5 major Trophies that will be the future Historical Refs for the club

12 Section winners - Medals

 

WRC ACE Birds Awards

worked on points system, a Top 10 will issued

( each Section 50 points for 1st, 1 point for 50th etc)

Most points wins, and so on, listed 1-10

 

Depending on running costs the ACE bird will the most prestigious prize in the WRC receiving in the regions of £1000.

Insuring the Multi Performance birds get true accolades.

 

Extra Funding.

An Annual sale will be held , containing Birds from the best lofts in Europe to boost funds.

Sponsorship will also be raised from various Feed companies and local businesses and Businessmen.

 

Facebook Live,,

Gone are the days of £1.50 to call a lib line, The WRC Facebook page will run live on Race Days , with members only pass ,allowing fanciers the option to record their first birds times as the race unfolds.

 

The Facebook Page will also deliver winning Results, reports,,updates,,lost birds etc.

 

Costs -£0,,, Only effort and time needed.

 

So What are We creating?

 

A footprint for the future of inland racing into the west of Scotland,with the flexibility to insure our birds have the best available care, transport and chance of performing at the highest possible level, be that in the WRC races or as prep for future Channel Races.

Our Goal is simple to deliver Quality Inland Racing with a superb Competition, with all the convoy heading to the The same Area of Scotland, Racing in a competitive Open result, within your own environment,, with safety in numbers, But most importantly also insuring the Future of the sport.

 

First draft, of what we are looking a proposing for 2020.

( remember distance you fly isn’t always what everyone flys their will always be a longest and shortest flier, we must take every loft in The Region into account)

 

Proposed LRPF 2020 program

 

11th April - Kelso 64 miles

18th April - Kelso 64 miles

25th April - Hexham 97 miles

2nd May - Ripon 157 miles

9th May - Ripon 157 miles

16th May - Wetherby 170 miles

23rd May - WRC Worksop 210 - 235 miles

30th May - Ripon 157 miles

6th June - WRC NewMarket 300 - 325 miles

13th June - Kelso 64 miles

20th June - WRC Chelmsford 340- 365 miles

27th June - Kelso 64 miles

4th July - Ypres 450 miles

 

( Feds would vote as always to either go with SNFC or on their own as previous years

The WRC has no interest in Channel Racing, it’s sole purpose is to deliver quality inland racing and competition to the West Region )

 

Young Bird 2020

Kelso - 64 miles

Kelso - 64 miles

Hexham - 97 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Ripon - 157 miles

Wetherby - W.R C. 170mile - 190 miles

 

In 2020 any start up or running costs of the WRC will be funded by Macaloney Pigeons.

Their after everything going to plan the organisation should be hopefully self Funding, running as close to non profit as possible, basically covering overheads, giving everything back to its members, also insuring Great inland Racing for years to come.

 

Why Now, why have we got involved ?

 

Let’s not try and pull the wool over any ones eyes, at some point all the above organisations will have to amalgamate, purely due to fall in membership, why not do it now, while we can and try and breath some life back into the sport. In the past it’s no secret that between our partnership we have all ran successful businesses throughout the years, which involved running an organisation and delivering on our promises. I personally see it as our way of giving back to the sport that has given us so much enjoyment for 4 generations, but also trying to improve our own Quality of racing.

 

After the last race of 2019 , this letter will be issued to all clubs and Feds with in the region, I would personally also like to visit all clubs in my own Federation to hear any issues,,suggestions or fears.. to sum up this club for me provides and Umbrella as such for all the feds to come together, taking all politics and personal issues out of the equation and fingers crossed providing what we should all want, a better quality of racing into the West Region.

 

Yours in sport

Paul Macaloney

I can read lol just a lot of fanciers asking different questions and was getting a bit awkward to wot it was all about and for your comment as I say I can read just asking questions thanks

[Guest mambo]

Paul claiming 4 races from the Lanarkshire and getting there transporters, ain't going to be as easy as you think,13 clubs plus who ever turn up will not like the late call, your only hope would be the fed votes to go with the national and the fed trucks were fee for them race dates but as you know we like to go to kelso them dates

[Nip1957]

A great idea well done Paul

[Paul Mac 31]

Paul claiming 4 races from the Lanarkshire and getting there transporters, ain't going to be as easy as you think,13 clubs plus who ever turn up will not like the late call, your only hope would be the fed votes to go with the national and the fed trucks were fee for them race dates but as you know we like to go to kelso them dates

 

 

Danny ,, I think guys must watch this and just shake their heads at your comments,,, they are that far off,, I’m not even replying anymore.

 

Will be at Coatbridge club soon enough to speak to the guys

 

A great idea well done Paul

 

 

Cheers mate,, hopefully get the lads from Coatbridge to also back it,, will do the rounds soon enough.