Ronnie

I dont think any eyesign person would say a bird will win at such a distance .They would say it can win.Again its down to more than just the eyesign you still need to get the pigeon on the right condition for the race.Look at every distance winner you can and see if there is eyesign present if it is does that prove eyesign exist?.I'm neither for or against eyesign at the moment but on the fence as they say leaning towards it rather than away.I also believe there are people who have been studying the eye a lot longer than sixteen years who will swear it exist.Yes bloodlines tell a lot but if that bloodline started with two good eyesign birds what does that prove?Dont take this the wrong way i really interested in both sides of the argument like i said i'm neither for or against and only time and study of my own birds will tell.

I started using sand and lime about a month ago on my stock birds and my very small team of yearling's and am starting to see the benefits now the birds look great and seem happy.I dunno where to get lime from so i used Garden lime from B&Q seems to do the trick.Ive got the youngsters in the darkness loft with easybed down till training starts and they look outstanding ive not treated the youngsters for anything except the pmv jab.I use cider vinigar and garlic in the water a lot for all the birds and i think this helps a lot.Out of the two i think the sand and lime is the best just for the fact im now walking it everywhere through the house and garden.Just put a step outside the shed to scrape ya boots on and ya done.Truse me when ya come home from a 12hour shift with two hours on top traveling the last thing you want to do is scrape the loft out.

I can be totally honest and say experts do not exist in eyesign no matter who they are, eyesign can be used for 1) determining the health of a bird. 2) confirmation of pedigree and breeding . How can you make such a statement without actually proving these so called experts wrong? Is there any solid proof for or against eyesign? Until there is either i cant see how you can make such an assumption.

south west cheshire fed at Wincanton.

Haha Thanks Davey ive just had a local fancier round to inspect the mealy he is amazed he made it home, both wings are badly bruised but he reckons no breaks so he is off for the rest of the season now and see how he does next year apart from that he seem's ok.This year is all about learning and i've learnt alot from the guy's on here and through experiance.Roll on youngbirds

This is the action ive took thanks alot guy's. My racing team is now down to two my big pied cock and my louella hen.sending this last race and then the hen is being laid off i may lay the pied of till the channel now.

He is showing no other symtons his stools are good he is driving round his box. Just dunno what to do.

Need a bit of help please guy's. My mealy cock yearling came home 3 days late from a race and has been reluctent to fly but he would fly a bit.I put this down to fatigue and just left him to do his own thing.That was last week i let him out yesterday and noticed his right wing didnt look right so i called him in and checked it.It is all black from the shoulder down so i assumed he has banged it.Upon looking today his left wing look's like it may be going the same.You reckon he has had a real bad bang or could it be parathoid?.Any help please guy's.

does the light system make the youngsters mature like darkness youngsters as well as the moult?

I got some of them german box's from him as well.Great bloke and really good quality box's

Thanks for the offer Tammy .Really appreciate it but ive just ordered some thanks again.

Thanks Rose i completely forgot about them

Anyone know where i can buy some T3 thimbles i cant find any anywhere

well i think sammy and harky have said it all really.It is turning into a pisstake site

Hello mate i have only got 3 yearlings left to race this year its my first year for old birds so started with all yearlings anyway.I am consistently last man at the club as i was in the youngbirds last year.My birds where trained hard to start of with to no avail i treated for the usual stuff like yourself and allthough they came better still at the back.Work commitments meant i couldnt train no more so what i did was put the hen's (Hen) with the youngbirds and let her fly with them and i let my cocks out 1hour in the morning and one hour of a night i feed 1/12 ounces each of widowwood mix a day for all my birds .Now the cocks would not fly around the house and i had to brick them at first as soon as the got used to not being let in till the door was open they would fly consistently for an hour each session .So that cured the training problem my hen i fly with youngsters and she is in tiptop condition(on the darkness as well).Well this week i was ten mins behind the winner and midtable of the club by far my best position yet and it was my hen that came straight after my cock came and i clocked him as well. The point i'm trying to make is after the first race if you get ya bird flying round the house well enough i reckon you can stop the road work.I'm new at this so i may be totally wrong but there is allways way's and means of doing things if you put your mind to it. All the best and good luck.

well sorry to intterupt you guy's .But i sent 3 got 2 back from swainswick 10mins behind the winner so ive really pulled some place's back this week.Just worried about me little pied hen .

i got 35 flying and ranging.They sometime's dissapear for a few hours at a time.They allways seem to make it back for feeding time though so i'm not complainin.On the darkness from 4pm till 9 am most have done a full body molt allready.

winsford (8 mile outside Nantwich) Overcast but quite clear no wind but a bit nippy

got 12 last year got one left.Wasnt to impressed but all being told i lost a lot due to bad management on my part being my first year in the sport.

Great read.I wonder if i could get my Braspennings to do the same

How do you go about entering a racing pigeon into a show at blackpool?Is there a prerequisite like a knock out event? or do you just send the form of for the bird and what class etc?

I only caught the last 15 min's but what i saw i enjoyed.The missus said she wished she had seen it all.I am going to enter a one loft race next year but its just for the missus really she will pick the bird and enter it in her name ,i will continue to race my own birds.

Well done Jimmy

As i see it they only sell to people who buy .if you dont want them dont buy them. As for rocognition i think this will be great for the sport more people will see a chance of making money and have a go at pigeon racing .Out of the ones who try it some will turn out to be genuine fanciers.Yes some will be bad but if it attracts 10 new fanciers then its worth it in my eye's.Imagine there could be a few new George buscharts emerging Millionaires who just want to buy winners.Now imagine if you own one of them winners and you are approached what would your answer be to ten grand for the old check cock who has won the national and got ten first fed cards.

well looking at the returns i dont think earthquakes affect the birds