Wiley

Personally it wouldn't be for me strapper I like a variety of grains in my mix there just isn't enough choice for the birds on widowhood. However I feel it would be successful for the moult due to the sulphur content

No I've found 8 weeks is the minim u need on the dark

Afternoon gentleman, would like to let you guys into something I am experimenting with this season. As some are aware I work constant night shifts. The way I have done the darkness system for many years is open up at 8 closed up at 4 in the afternoon. This season with one section I am experimenting with less hours of light. Let me explain about the loft, the loft that is being experimented with, when darkned is not in complete darkness, it's much like moonlight the birds and myself can easily see the drinker, and I know from the water levels being taken they are drinking during the hours of darkness. Unlike the traditional darkness system the birds do not receive the traditional 8 to 9 hours of light but in fact only receive a maximum of 3 hours. The birds have been on the dark since the middle of March. Through observation between the section on traditional darkness, the team on this experiment I have found that the body moult has been and is at much of an excelled rate, and unlike the traditional system where the odd bird may moult a primary I have found in this section there is not one case unlike the other section where there is 3 out of the 16 in the section that have dropped one flight. I personally feel the section with the less hours of light will be able to be taken of the darkness much much sooner then the other team. I will be hopefully updating if I notice any differences with training and racing. I should mention both section are allowed out for exercise daily together so are at the same process of flying around home.

Well done to Davey

I've had some good ones from Henry Gonsalves when he was racing inparticular the black uns from shadow. But a out and out racing loft with brilliant pigeons look no further then Tony C

East London Fed and County of Essex 10.30 Newark West Wind

Cheers mate

Good luck son hope east London had same idea about Peterborough I was suggesting it last night

Morning sunny and bright but haven't wondered out but imagine it's only about 4 degrees or so

Top 20 in federation

M.Connollys pigeon was a blue cock it's nest mate is a 1st Federation winner and winner of 8th LNRC. A.Gadsdon first pigeon is blue Chequer cock a son of there 7th LNRC winner a Gavert crossed with a Frank Tasker that had previously bred a fed winner There 2nd bird is of the same combination of Gavert x Tasker and is a Blue Chquer Cock out of a previous fed winner Crossed with a Tasker young bird winner H.Blaker wasn't present to give any details

Cheers for the support lads hopefully tonight I'll be able to update top 20

1st M. Connolly and son vel 1770.2 2nd A. Gadsdon and son Vel 1735.1 3rd A. Gadsdon and Son Vel 1732.3 4th H.Blaker Vel 1732.1 5th W.Durrant Vel 1714.9 6th M. Connolly Vel 1701 7th Mr and Mrs Goodwin Vel 1701 8th S.Bullard and Sons Vel 1695 9th W. Durrant Vel 1693 10th H.Blaker Vel 1675 11th Mr and Mrs Sweeney Vel 1643 12th T Devlin Vel 1611 D.N.T.I R.Mehegan

1st M. Connolly and son 1770 2nd E.Lyons and Son 1767 3rd R. Hawkins and Son 1755 4th Mr and Mrs Porter 1737 5th E. Lyons and Son 1736 6th A. Gadsdon and Son 1735 More to be updated

Same chap I am talking about

To be honest I haven't picked the books up as of yet as still reading last weeks books with my cammio appearance. But the ceualmans was something I was looking to introduce into our Thas, Cassaerts and Haeltermans as that's what Bristow and others have been doing and racing them very successfully direct they are cheap as chips supposedly last time I heard 40 euros a piece.

A very good pigeon fancier he is so I believe very good friends with Alister Ewart and Frank Bristow

I'd always race them widowhood first race and send them as calm as possible I find leaving the birds with the hens upto 2 hours to be best for the early races

We had a multiple club winner and winner of federation winner with this shaped keel many years bk. I don't like to see it but if you don't race it you'll never know

Blue pied under the blue bib for me

Very much doubt it I feed conditioner seed every time I enter the loft

aslong as the temp is 10 degrees or above in my book its fine to train

will probably start training thursday, many trainers went over my lofts this morning

you say it looks like when they are feeding? but are they feeding mate?

will do in the week ian