I will ask lol.......as my memory goes swallow tails and bare lugs were pretty much the norm for everybody in our club, yes the odd one held better than others and these were the ones hunted out for the last ones. Of course he will say that the weather you have around in the summer will dictate the body moult. I wusnae telling you I was asking lol hence the question marks..... I am going to have a go at one loft race this year for the first go