Tony C

Yes Vic more times than not the winner would be so whatever system used. What will change is the perception of those that are behind. As it is at the moment those behind work on the premise of time i.e. beaten by say 2 minutes, under ETS those same 2 minutes will be now be translated into position actually finished. Its better to have people think they're 2 minutes behind rather than know they finished lets say 100th or so.

I remember reading an article re colour feeding to help enrich the yolk of the egg. It was fed to pigeons prior to pairing right up until they laid. What the product was I cant recall but I know it was said to be very rich in Riboflavin's.

How do you ring youngsters in the nest? I use me mobile ;D ;D

Thought I'd bring this back up top as to date its only had 36 views. Think what your doing is a good idea. The result should be interesting.

As per RPRA rule book VACCINATION CODE OF PRACTICE (1) Racing pigeons entered in races or shows must be vaccinated annually against paramyxovirus with a DEFRA-approved vaccine. (2) A vaccination certificate containing the details of the vaccination must be used. (3) Vaccination of pigeons must be witnessed by two independent association/union members, or a veterinary surgeon who will be required to sign the vaccination certificate on the front and likewise after the last pigeon listed on the reverse of the form. (4) The vaccination certificate should have recorded on it the make of vaccine used and the batch number of the vaccine. (5) The original copy of the certificate should be retained by the club and a certified true copy lodged with any other club (if a member is in more than one club). These certificates should be retained for two years. (6) Members entering racing pigeons in races or shows will be required to certify on their race/show entry form that the pigeons have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus with a DEFRA-approved vaccine. (7) Club secretaries will require to certify to their convoying organisations that all pigeons entered have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus with a DEFRA-approved vaccine. ( 8 ) The driver of the transporter should be furnished with a certificate certifying that all pigeons carried have been vaccinated against paramyxovirus with a DEFRA-approved vaccine.

Is it not down to the clubs secretary to hold the vaccination certificates, after all he/she's the one that has to state in writing (every race) that all birds sent are vaccinated. Get the fed secretary to visit every club each week to do same, they will think again I bet.

Think you still have to obtain a licence through your local DEFRA.

Meditech do it. Two teaspoons to a gallon of water. You only need to put it in the bath water if you've got problems with feather rot, if not put vineger in their bathwater, cheap as chips ;D

:o whats that in £'s shillings & pence

I like you T_T given the chance would have voted against it. Now that it has been passed I can see myself having to look at buying the system, not for the advantage It'll give me but not to allow those with it to have an advantage over me. I wont be the first in my club to install it but I wont be the last either

There's many different ways of going about it. This year I will be sending them to their first race (April 14) sitting. At the moment they are on 5 day old babies, the hens along with one of the babies will be removed on or around the 13th of this month, I will repair them on the 27th of this month. As for me training them I will start them off when I pair them back up BUT the weather has to be good. The hens will be removed again on the Thursday (April 12) prior to the first race, when the cocks return from that race they'll be on w/hood from then on in.

Try this http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan?

If eggs were taken away after 8 days on their 2nd round I believe (and could be wrong) that they would cast their 1st flight after sitting 4-5 days on their 3rd round. Would be interested myself to know if I've got this right. :-/

Whilst I like to see then drop their first flight I don't encourage it by letting them sit over 8 days on their 2nd round, that is if I let them sit a 2nd round at all.

I think casting of the first flight is a sign that things are going as they should. The instance you gave Jimmy shows that its not necessary for a pigeon to drop a flight before it comes into form, given a choice though I would personally like to see then drop their first. Jimmy, why do think your pigeon held its flights for so long? Was it raced on darkness as a baby ?

http://www.users.on.net/~anna.sanderson/humour/20070219_nhsannouncement.doc

Hope this helps LICENCE CONDITIONS FOR SHOWS AND SALES As we enter the showing and sales season it is timely to remind you all of the DEFRA licence conditions appertaining to these events. The following is not definitive and is subject to change. Any queries should be addressed to the local DEFRA Area Health Office. General licence conditions Conditions applying to bird gatherings in England (except pigeon races and pigeon training events into England in England, which are covered below). 1. A nominated person must be designated as the event organiser and a person responsible for keeping the records set out in condition 2. 2. A record of all exhibitors and vendors of birds must be kept for three months, which includes the following information: a) full name; home address; c) telephone number; d) number and types of birds. 3. Gatherings must not be attended by any birds brought into the UK from any other EU Member State (excluding the Republic of Ireland) in the previous four weeks. There is an EU wide ban on the import of live birds from third countries already in place. 4. A named veterinary surgeon (or another veterinary surgeon if the named person is unavailable) must be contactable for advice and to attend in the event of any suspect disease. 5. The event organiser must ensure biosecurity advice is distributed at the event. 6. If sales of birds are taking place at the event, a record of all sales must be kept by the event organiser for at least three months from the final day of the event. This must include the name, address and telephone number of both the seller and the buyer, and any identifying features or individual identification of the purchased bird(s). 7. The event organiser must notify the local State Veterinary Service Animal Health Office nearest to the event at least 7 days prior to the event taking place. Notification must include date, location, details of the event organiser and anticipated numbers and types of birds. Biosecurity conditions to be applied Written detailed action plans, held by the nominated responsible person, must be available in the event of a disease incident at the event or nearby the event All litter and manure within the cages, crates or baskets must be contained until disposal. Any spillages outside the cage to be cleansed and disinfected immediately.All litter and manure must be disposed of in a manner which does not present a risk of spread of the disease, e.g. in sealed bags for normal refuse collection in such a manner that other birds do not have direct access to it.All exhibitors/entrants must be instructed to cleanse and disinfect the show cages, crates or baskets before the event and be advised that they should be cleansed and disinfected on return to the home premises and before they are used to hold any other bird.Sales Buyers must isolate the purchased bird(s) from any other birds (except those purchased at the same event) for at least one week. Any signs of ill health observed in the purchased bird(s) during this period must be reported to a veterinary surgeon and such birds must not be mixed with any other birds until the presence of an avian notifiable disease has been ruled outGeneral Contact your local State Veterinary Service and Local Authority for further advice on biosecurity measures and any other legislation that may apply.Full details are on the DEFRA website www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/diseases/notifiable/disease/ai/keptbirds/genlicence.htm

WHU ? manager Alan Curbishley has told his players to drive around London whilst talking on their mobile phones, reckons its the only way they'll pick up 3 points. ;D

Congrats Paulo

I wouldn't give mine no more than 5% at this stage, I'm led to believe its not the easiest thing for babies to digest. I would use it as part of their trapping mixture.

My fathers reaction when I told him I'd topped the combine.............Priceless

Have a good'un ;D Happy Birthday

No matter how well I plan come the first race I feel its come a week to early.

Mornings 50% breeding mix 50% G10 pellets fed in pots Afternoon Homoform, G10, conditioning seed, matrix fed in trough Evenings 100% breeding mix fed in pots.

Will donate a pair of youngsters from stock loft. Vandenabeele, M&D Evans lines.