the old busschearts were quit ugly ,but still dominated races,i ve seen louellas web site and feel the busscheart youngsters on there are very true to type,what you get from alot of fanciers are the birds they have bred for themselves on what they like to look at,louella dont do that they just breed the strain for you,its then upto you to keep the good and get rid of the crap,but personally if i was going to get the busschearts i would only go to louella,look at some peds of the best busscheart flyers there is,they NEARL all go back to the originals from louella.Les