Roland

At his age Attila the hun is still a boy lol ;D ;D

Nice looking birds ... shame about the owner's lol :P ;D ;D Looks more like weeks than a long day eh! ;)

Exactly, lol... was about to post later lol ;D ;Dwe

100% right mucker.

Must say though, the best I've seen boxing wise over the last 40 odd years have both been Scots, Joe -'Bring hame ma bacon' Ganns son Walter McGowan and Ken Buchannon. Best Amateur I ever saw fight was Chris Finnigan - when he was Light middlewieght ABA champ out pointing Robert Henderson the Welterwieght Aba champion that year. Now as to was it a contrived match for the 'Crowds' Pleasure' I wasn't aware of then ... nor now, but have to admit these bouts did, and do, go on. But that was sheer Class. Johnny Francome's fight against Willie stack the 'Ole War Horse' - who's sister unfortunately wed Randolth Turpin against the reigning Aba, and England's no 1 / 2 / 3 depending what part of the contry you lived lol, was a great Classic. Willie was 40 sommat, and Francome atill a yoiungster. Sheer class and crowd pleaser.

Whilst I agree about the moult, starts 6th Day after laying their first egg next round, I didn't agree that they are past the best neccesarily. Believe when the next flight is two 3rds up that the have the extra energy.

As Cashri might say 'Eh em ... what's this got to do with Pigeons lol ;D ;D

my wife payed all my club fees rings and all other dues ie fed My mssis paid the taxi to send me away for the day lol. ... Still waiting to be met and picked up at the cross roads in the middle of no where lol ;D ;D ;D

The chief of the Fukarewe Tribe Mackaruboo was very angry and pexplexed. He storms to see Father Josepth. ' I am very upset, tell me' he rants, 'Why is I have 10 childrem all black ... then this 11th one is WHITE'! Then accusingly he prods father Joesepth and states 'And you are the only white man within 200 miles from here' and shouts 'Now you tell me what this means'! Father Josepth puts his arm around the distraught father 'Now no hasty concluions here, God is unfathomable'! and leads him away to the Goat pen. 'There he says ' You all the babies are white... then every so often there becomes a black one like that one there ... It is a mystery really ... only God knows the answer these are the secrets of nature, you have to accept without understanding them'! 'Oh I see' says Mackaruboo, 'I be quiet about the white baby ... and you'll be quiet about the Black Goat'! P.s. has nothing to do with Pigeons .... Sorry!!! :B :B :P ;D ;D ;D

How far away is the old loft, and can you retrieve it easy. Best and easiest way to break a bird is - when appropiate - is never to feed and water in old loft. Take to new loft and light feed and water. Then soon when let out will go into new loft and out to feed. Soon new loft is old loft and when mated.... Robert's your mother's brother.

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Weeks and weeks... if never sat up on.

Saw a article that somewhat suprised me. Nottingham had never produced a 'World Champion' til Carl Froch. Remember great british chams, Swift Pritchard, etc. etc. Dave Needham, but though in recollection i realised they didn't ... found it hard to find one... Some world class, but seems always some world champ that edged them. What square mile has produce more world champion boxers than any other ... suprise suprise, London!

Of course they never had a decent fighter - outside of Sharpe lol - from Sheffield eh! lol No wonder he's peeved...

Go away and stop being silly! Read the rules and get a life eh! :P ;D ;D ;D

Where does this site page say anything about pigeons! It is - when you get around to noticing it - for any topic that is NOT for Pigeons. Hope that helps you to understand.

So very true ... but isn't just the case that the one that daren't / won't take the fight that resorts to bad - mouthng! Guilt conscoius? Obviously to cover the truth. Not saying frightened to get into the ring with them personally, but mainly to protect their next fortune fight they wouldn't get when they lost! Which they knew there was a high risk of doing just that.

Yes Albear, it was a certain Ponty Davis, who was, in his time, just a bantam weight - who jumped in the ring and mouthed of at Brian London. A immature - obviously - amateur that climbed in a stuck one on London. One night of fame, for he was never heard of realistically again, forget his name now lol. He stuck one on London, nary a Flinch from London who head butted him. Ponty was firing them in from all angles - But London daren't hit him and totally ignore the punches, but I bet they stung lol - and then he and Richardson had a mother of all Sunday brawl. Richardson was a big good-looking tough fighter, who hated training lol. Who was easily retaining his title, in the fight that made Cooper. Cooper was down 2 - 3 times when Richardson looked over him. When he got up he was facing away from Richardson who was nonchalant thinking the fight was over when Henry swung round and hit him with what was to become his famed ‘Hammer’ Out Cold. He went Sparko and COOPER was handed the fight in the 6th round (I believe it was the sixth) The rest is history, Cooper became a great - though terribly shielded - ambassador for the sport.-Would never have lived with the likes Farr etc. But greats that fought greats, regardless who won, BOTH mde names of honour, and wealthy livelihoods - depending which Manager / Promoter was screwing them.

Yes Albear, it was Ponty Davis, who was in his time just a bantam wieght - who jumped in the ring and mouthed of at Brian London. A inmature - obviously - amateur that climbed in a stuck one on London. He stuck one on London, nary a Flinch London head butted him. Ponty was firin them in from all angles - But London daren't hit him and totally ignore the punches, but i bet they stung lol - and then he a Richardson had a mother of all Sunday brawl. Richardson was big good looking tough fighter. Was losing his title that made Cooper. Cooper was down 2 - 3 times when Richardsson looked over him. When he got up he was facing away from Richardson who was nonchalent thinking the fight was over when Henry swung round and hit him Cold. He went Sparko and COOPER was handed the fight in the 6th round (I believe it was the sixth) The rest is history, Cooper became a great - though terribly shielded - ambasserdor for the sport.-Would never have lived with Farr etc. But greats that fought greats, regardless who won, BOTH

Great heart and good hard puncher.

Nice set up Maidmarion ... thought Robin Hood was a guest with the arrow slits... ;D ;D

Ah see the name has also been put up, must have been when I had me head down spew out lol.

Yes Albear, Name leaves me for a mo... Bantam wieght or such.... Owen of course. Was in Phil Edwards house once - Swansea would one believe ... where he was telling me that the first time he fought Terry Downes he struggled on the toilet for around 2 months after such was the severe pain. But the couragous man fought him again -Titles of coure at stake, and swears he tried his darnest to get up of his stool for the 15th round! Downes had remained standing. Downes was also out on his feet. His shorts were already red... and he peed blood for 3 months after, cuased by the terrible body (Kidney) punches he had endured. HE had turned pro at 16 by the way, and eventual lost to a local mate of mine at Leicester. He said I decided then and there to pack up .. if a (poor) boxer like George **** can beat me, then the write was not only on the wall, but set in cement! Met Eddie Thomas, he was a true gent. Was a mate of our Trainer / manager. And many more. Also vernon Thomas who was then the WABC secretary. The first time I fought against Wales, believe this believe it not, was against a coloured lad called Paddy Murphy. Driscoll, Jimmy Wilde and Joe erskine were greats... Dick Richardson I met too. But for me the greatest heavey wieghts in Britain was Tommy Farr and Len Harvey, in any order ... till Bugner came along of course! the most underestimated by far was Brian London, who never had a manager, and never took a day of for the fights even, let alone train like a pro.

You see, true great--- as to Manufactured and perceived with clever Tabloids / media – never bothered what name they fought or when. NONE made excuses as to why they wouldn’t didn’t. . The list is endless. Heavies who took on all comers were the likes of Ali / Johnson / Joe Louis (unfortunately the war years did him no favours, but that can’t be held against him, Frazier Marciano, even George Foreman and Holyfield fought all and any, and every name. Dempsey, Bowe, Tysom etc. didn’t! Hagler, Monzon etc. Sugar Ray, Lennard, Hearns, Duran etc. etc. did! Their names will be forever remember and in lights. Even not so great – as on the world scene ducked or dived etc. Like Patterson – really just a great middleweight, but went against Gus Dematoe etc. Liston – another great, but so hugely unpopular and paid the price… so yes the ‘Managers shield the not so greats and quite rightly so. Boxers like Froch and Witter hurt with any and every punch, so the best any ne can do is win get hurt over a tough fight! Hatton is great for the sport and public. He wears his heart on his sleeve for all to see. Ask Minter, another that was begged not to fight Hagler for the very above reason. The list is endless, Pep V sadley etc. many spring to mind. Howard Winstone, like Buchanun fought any… and paid the price. Hatton, and Joe won’t / didn’t make the same mistakes… But my point is ‘Don’t try and belittle better fighters for own ego’s. Yes they will look back and wished ‘If only … then look at the £millions and say… ‘But it had to be that way!

Exactly Gangster, my point entirely Hatton doesn't need to fight Witter .... Never has. But to decry and give silly reasons to camaflage the truth is senile. When my sons etc. went to Hattons do ... I couldn't make it. The first thing Hatton said was 'I will not answer any questions regarding Witter ....' And then appoligised. the simple reality is like you say He doesn't need to... Indeed if he had he'd be a lot poorer bankwise than he is now. Mutters, now, that it may be his last fight... but no one, even he of course, never believes that. As for Witter fighting 'World Class' that is also the very point He has not only fought them, but beat them ... where as - outside of Mayweather who rengaded twice on his fights with Witter Hatton has actualy fought a world class genuine top fighter. Witter came back and beat Harris for example... Believe Mick you are reading the wrong News papers and publicity. Niether fights will happen. But I know one thing, any true champion has FOUGHT all and any, especialy when they have a name pulled through the muck. Hatton stated hat fighting Witter wouldn't pay good! Wrong on two accounts. One they would come to see him beat Witter! And 2 the claim about giving Witter an undeserved pay day was floored when Witter challenged. Winner takes all... And if i win I will give it all to any named charity. So the claim of a Big pay day for some one that bad mouths me was never a issue. Why didn't Hatton fight for the British Title, the European title etc. etc. Simple, because there was always some one or 2 or 3 FIGHTER TOO GOOD FOR HIM. Can't see hagler / duran Roninson etc. etc. ducking and diving and spouting untruths now did we... The reason why I'd never let either fight them names was because it would cost them real dear when they lost! And that wouldn't be good managerment. Nice to disagree with you Mick though, and you are right ... for the wrong essence in their reasoning.