so, out of interest, how many birds in total have you in your lofts at present? Too many (approx 59 including, stock, droppers, old favourites, young favourites............... do you feel you have more than you want/need? no racing 16 cocks next year (hope one or two of the hens are cocks, as only got 14 LOL !!) and 32 hens to race - or 30 if 2 are cocks !!