wilkins

was thinking of the jealousy this system would create, with a center section and doors to there own section from this section i dont think it would need more swopping than roundabout would be about the same , total widowhood would have less swopping but i would think this system would be the same work as roundabout

going to get a bit of feed back and change the loft over xmas if positive, room wise it should be no more than racing 12 pairs as normal

i have 2 inch by 1 inch square poles for my hens

thats it blackdog , i thought excersise once a day trap in box section but main feed in the pole section , should be great motivation ,first pair home get locked in the box the other pair have to be locked in the loft outside the box then spilt , can play by mixing the pairs up prior to basketing jealousy hens etc etc. should always be motivated

has any one tried pairing the birds in a middle section say 6 pair in the 6 box's then spliting them into a section either side of the middle section cocks in one hens in the other,then pairing another 6 pair in the same section , then spliting them so 12 cocks and 12 hens race back to the centre section and of course all the tricks with jealousy this can be played, was thinking excersise cocks am hens pm trap to the middle, all training back to the middle trapping mix in the middle but main feed once they settle down in there own section the reason i was thinking of this was i have noticed roundabout hens seem to beat the roundabout cocks, and may be it was due to the nest box section being missed more by the hens tas the cocks that on normal roundabout have access to the box section for most of the day,plus with the above jealousy could be used more

would that me a mixture or one type of corn

now after the moult i give just over 1 oz a day for 3 -4 weeks when racing depends on the distance for sprints on sunday 3/4 oz to 1oz , monday 1 oz ,on tuesday 1 and 1/4 oz wed same, thursday all they want feed more for over 150 miles and it depends on time between races,, or you can add 25%-50% barley early in the week stop feeding once they leave the barley then stop feeding reduce the barley as race day comes nearer

r v woodcraft are cheaper and better service i have found £13 each

will keep looking , would knock them up myself but short on time , set of 3 or 4 will get me out of trouble for now so may have to make then if no joy soon

ok cemetary, thanks i was thinking he may be

would pick if not to far , where are you from patty bhoy?

any one in the essex ,herts , cambridge have any nest box's for sale 2nd hand or new i can pick up and pay cash looking for 9 or 12 , dont mind if some have fronts missing

that what i use now, makes it easier in the morning 50% honey 50%cider vinegar i find it very good

what would be the best mix to race on as a base mix to either add proteins ,fats,carbs to i can only get wheat, barley,maize .maples ,tics , rape ,layers pellets as straights but can by fats etc seperate what would be the portions of the above members would use as the standard mix

i wish i was local i would have them

ybs would be better , dont get tied down with to many stock,

would love them if you were not so far away

vita pro , cheap and last ages not sure if the birds really need muti vits , i so think they need amino acids and iron was thinking of stopping the multi vits once they run out and use impact and one of the amino acid supplements

i tried the imbrechts years ago but never really had the distance races to try them at , i had a son of bruno and a few granchildren of espoir

would be good to hear how the experiment ended uo for you tony

thanks tony , i will try it out and use as per the directions regarding the dose thanks

do you use it more in the season than out of it it or is it the same all year round, thanks

have members have any views on the impact from gem im looking for a iron and iodine product and this seems to look ok but have not purchased it as of yet

30 to 35 ,all one round the same age (within a couple of weeks ) only have one section and prefer the age to be near the same

just watched a dvd on wright brothers , there birds had loads of garlic left in the drinker to it goes soft and breaks up during winter ,, watched another dvd of phill higgs and he puts garlic in for a couple of hours and advised against leaving it in any longer,, both are top fliers