wilkins

i think if you use a all round mix( which had peas/beans in it ) with 25% barley added is not a bad mix then add 25% maize to this from tuesday or wednesday, but after 250 miles i would drop the barley and add more maize and fats to the breeding mix maybe 50% breeding , 40% maize 10% fats you can get any energy type mix for 250 miles plus up to 200 miles fed all they want on saturday of barley /protein/seed mix .then only around 1 oz sunday and monday, tuesday 1 and1/4 ,wed 1 1/2 ,thursday all they want , friday just energy mix all they want over 200 you will need to feed more early in the week

i thought clude wheeler in bedfordshire had some very good van hoppe birds. but i am going back a few years

thats great thanks every one

yes i was thinking the same bigda, was thinking of adding some protein to it early in the week if they have had a hard fly

cant get that range local

any one noa pigeon suppiler that does dog tooth maize in south east/essex/herts /cambridge area

yes tony its the red maize one

an one tried gem red ruby race mix, it looks good for feeding wednesday -friday its seems to be a high carb mix

on taylors not all the corn has the protein, carb etc breakdown i guess it depends on the info given to taylors

does any one know the protein content of maiman varimix or a web site for this info

my worry on the gerry early in the week was the lack of protein to re build and repair muscles , maybe i over think the need for this i was thinking of superstar with a bit of barley or a bit of a higher protein corn (maybe yb mix) added early in the week to the superstar depending on the work the birds have done on the saturday,from tuesday just superstar

any one tried versa laga superstar or champion ic

i think distance fanciers have used coal in the past due to the above

no one used this then?

i think matrix is not the best thing while breeding as birds will over eat on it , but twice a week is not enough grit for them get a couple of bags of grit a give them fresh dailey use matrix after breeding

i could have the above names a little wrong or spelt wrong no wish to offend if i have ,but just wanted to see if i could find it again

none paired wednesday for couple of hours repaired this morning

do any members recall using race master from vic taylor based in the north west i used it in the late 80's with my ybs and flew really well on it with fed wins during this period, it was sold in a red bucket and looked a bit like hormoform used to add it to the normal yb mix, i think it sheffrin mill or a name like that that i purchased it from

i thought it was used against canker

1 foot per 3 birds along the back wall so 33 feet long

rv woodcraft in homing world are good

i use the doctor brockamp sedochol , i get it from syndicate lofts

could the votes not be more down to what you get rather than what you want , vl is way ahead plus you can get it in 90% of the country the trouble with making you own is the room it takes up as you have to get 10-15 bags to get the mix right as per web sites maybe 4 maize,2 peas ets etc

is there a up to date bid summary page ?

any other views ,i looked at the varimix but it seems to have more protein than carbs ?