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do you encourage them to eat towards the back end of the week

i was also thinking of the hopper of beans with 25% of say layers or bos pellets in the hopper along with the beans to allow a slightly varied diet but still using a teaspoon of a gerry type mix each morning

tony due to working every other weekend some times 2 out of 3 , i was looking at the beans system (i read your post previously)i do late shifts but not often earlys so i was thinking of a hopper of beans with the gerry as a morning treat,

no what you mean but was thinking of feeding a teaspoon of gerry plus each morning sunday to tuesday then a soup spoon wed and thursday and say friday hopper of gerry so it would not all be just one grain.

thanks thats what i was thinking of trying , do you bring the carbs forward a day as the distance goes up cheers

do bean feeders (hopper) add more carbs late in the week to get them to eat more

same problem i have and dont like to feed them once a day so the hopper would help

does any one know maybe a member of the site how much birds fed on a hopper of beans eat per week , just wonder if the intake slowed

i let my birds go in training just off the A40 beconsfield i have seen 8 red kite's in the area above me when letting the birds go but i have never had a bad toss from that spot,they seem to appear after i release the birds but just glide at first i was thinking im in for a bad toss now i dont worry , if you move more into windsor the royal park can be very dodgy to toss from lovely spot to train from but have given up on it due to the sparrow hawks in the park.

unless you can clean out 3 times a day you are better to have a dry deep litter i was told that by a vet , but it must be dry

mariman varimix is ok up to 250 miles them add a third maize to it plus some peanuts each day

not so sure about yogurt any more unless used damp, i dont think its does any good dry unless you are looking for the calcium value, and i dont like feeding it damp on the corn

i just the dc brookamp one , the birds feathers do seem better on it ,but is there a better one?

off today so birds boxs cleaned today deep litter given a little tidy up , weekend of football on the tv to enjoy

having read this post and the findings of gary inkley in the bhw this year , i am starting to wonder if we need to clean and refill the drinkers each day , starting to think they can just be topped up and emptied but not cleaned just once a week or when needed

i think sprint birds are better trained on line, and all ybs to form a habbit but my older birds go all over mainly against the wind

thats what i use i find that the best litter i have tried nice and dry

i feed 1oz early in the week to as much as they want by thursday night

, have you tried deep litter? poles/v perchs instead of box perchs i have changed to the above a saved a lot of time in the morning , if you buy the bhw stud book 2010 have a read of gary inkleys article

i leave it to next morning in the drinker then top it up next day, then they have fresh , but i have read of many top fanciers who are starting to just top the drinkers up each day including the great flier gary inkley , my birds look very well on this tonice , i also use a iron/iodine tonic as well and thats all i do each week

i do use it but put 10ml per litre,iput 2 cloves in and some natualine all at the same time i just top the water up the next day

i took out the highest rear board all the way along the back of the shed and covered it with wire ,its my yb shed

i phoned the rpra and they said belgium rings was a no, i have some birds from france and rpra said they were fine not sure aout shu

wonder if without the chip on the rings could eggs be damaged by the yearlings next year when sitting tight on the nest

i clean then once the young are about 9-10 days old