Wullie I brought it up at the agm after the messac race where it was a real disaster with only 51 birds made it home. I put a letter in asking for an enquiry into the race. They held the enquiry but no lesson were learned from the enquiry apart from the race control team were cleared of getting it wrong.. They need professional weather forecast information which costs money. If the Snfc used this for channel races it might just help the guys who are controlling the race make a more informed decision. I wasn't having a go at Jim Hannah and Peter Calder who were in charge at the time but giving the guys a hand and provide them with up to date weather forecasts was my aim.