I went to a lads loft a lot of years ago and he was winning against good competition hands down.I asked him if there was any secret in what he was doing and he said "no you just have to put time and money into them"I then asked what's the money part,again he replied"don't let them out in the morning take them 20 mile down the road and liberate,again in the afternoon 40 mile down the road and liberate.Never fly them round the loft once you start tarining"End of. Couldn't do it in the area I live in unless there was someione going to work evey morning on the line of flight or not. Lindsay